typos happen, and I'll always come back. I posted my number above :)
James, Having thought about this a bit in my spare time, I have come to a more relaxed place in regard to this conversation. I can't tell you that I don't believe this product isn't necessary, or that the same results can't be duplicated for a fraction of the price (in strict relation to what's labeled as the ingredients), but I can say that I think I came on a bit strong, and I apologize if I was rude. I can clearly see that you believe in your product, and at the very least, sincerity is the best that I can hope for, so let me say first of all; welcome to the forum, and thank you for coming back and staying engaged in the discussion. In regard to Dr. Chen, I can obviously see the man has spent quite a bit of time in business working with various companies, which is generally to be expected with just about anyone involved. If I were so inclined as to want a business man to have anything to do with the state of my health or what I put into my body, I would probably be as impressed as you seem to be, and I mean that respectfully. Look at his education in comparison to his business experience and you can see what I mean. None the less, I have known a few people with equally impressive backgrounds in other areas whom also have a far more extensive education than myself, and many have no more heard of them, than I have of Dr. Chen. There are other MLM's backed by other Doctors, with equally long credentials, and they are all impressive etc. They are also looking to get me to join their businesses, and buy their products with no hesitation in convincing you and I that we need them. So for me personally, I am not one to easily open my arms to anyone regardless of how impressive their credentials, or presentation. So, I admit that I don't personally know anyone who has tried RegenErect, and that is certainly a valid point, and I can see you are open to the possibility that its over priced, so that's a start. I admit that I probably would try a free sample, so I'm not knocking you for having tried it, and I wasn't before, I was merely pointing out that you were honestly not a very good candidate based on the concept that it was more of a remedy as opposed to a supplement. As it turns out, according to the web site, we are apparently both right. "Natural, drug-free RegenErect is an alternative solution to prescription products like Viagra. It’s a natural performance enhancer .." ? In a reply to me saying it was a scam, you stated: "If it works, how can it be a "scam". Overpriced, maybe... scam, NO
Well, my standards, or perhaps my expectations are a bit higher in that regard friend. I'll assume right now for the sake of argument that it does work. If I were Dr. Chen, and I thought to myself; "You know? I could take some vitamin supplements that have been known to increase erections and boost libido such as the typical vitamins, mix them into one powder, and sell it to people that are blinded by my credentials for 10 times the amount it cost me to buy them separately, I'd say that's a scam. Wouldn't you, or is that simply "good business"? That's to say nothing of whether or not we really know the truth about what is inside the pill, which is a subject all its own. ? You asked me, "What MLM are you currently involved in?"
I always laugh when I hear this question, and someone asked me this in the last debate I had, because it seems so convincing to a rep that if I'm knocking the product, I MUST be with the competition. I'm assuming that was what you were thinking, if I'm wrong please forgive. To answer your question, I'm not with any MLM companies, nor do I sell any products of any kind. I repair computers and occasionally do research for a data collection agency. I probably would join an MLM if I could have found one I really believed in. You stated: "Pretty sure I don't need a published study to tell me that the product works. I tried, it worked, I bought more." You don't require a published study, and I can certainly understand that, but would it make a difference to you if one day Dr. Chen sat down and he said: "Guess what James! I think you're a great guy and I wanted to let you in on a little secret: These pills contain dehydrated silkworms, the same kind you feed iguanas, and although they are interesting and exotic, they basically contain what you would find in a multivitamin, plus a bit of protein. We also added a few other things you can get very cheap that have never been proven, but have always been associated with sexual performance. Its a great looking product and now that you are a great seller, I figured Id save you a buck and tell you to simply eat right and take your multi's, like me."
Would you not for a second feel partially responsible for the placebo portion of how the pills affected you? I do realize that silkworm is very nutritious, and substances like Rhino horn, Oyster Extract, Gouqi Extract, White Willow Bark have been around forever. If a science lab tested every one of those supplements and told you that the results were negative, and test subjects reported no improvement, would it make any difference to you at all, wouldn't you question your own result even a little bit? If you're a healthy young guy that takes care of himself, and I'm assuming you are; pretty much a good meal and any extra dose of vitamins and nutrients are going to make you feel a bit antsy. At the end of this thread I am left with only two choices......You're an honest guy, and those pills really did work for you in such a way that the effect was like Viagra, or you are a rep who will say anything. Its not for me to say, because I don't know you, but I can tell you that the scientific community as a whole would probably see these ingredients as placebos, with only prescription drugs like Viagra as having shown any valid test results. If this product is proven to work without doubt in time, and there proves to be no unaccounted for substances in it, then I will gladly eat my words.
I called the 800 number and spoke with someone at corporate. They checked and said it is definitely a typo and it being updated.
Maybe someone can let them know about this typo, and ask specifically if Regenerect was tested for "Vardenafil" not "Rardenafil"
The Regenerect FAQ still says "Rardenafil" not Vardenafil.
and the verdict is in
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm256982.htm
lol, this was one of the greatest catches ever. I still can't believe he spotted it. I guess we won;t know the intricate details for awhile..
Wow, pretty awesome contribution James, thank you very much for posting it for us to read. I didn't think I would hear any updates on this topic for awhile so I stopped following it so closely. What are you plans now sir? Are/have you moved on to a new mlm company, sticking with Regenerect, or going to try something else entirely? If you don't mind, I'd like to make that letter it's own post, citing you with the credit of course. Feel free to keep us updated, and thanks again for posting that link.
The "typo" is still there as of 3/2/11....so I'm wondering if this is seriously as bad as it appears?