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    • March 31, 2011 1:34 AM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      Evolv Scam

      One of the more "scammy" companies to have "bubbled" out of the murky bull shizzle pit of bad MLMs is Evolv water. A company that has actually managed to make a name for itself, and recently merged with XOWii, a health products company that specializes in nutritional shakes..just what we need. The Evolv story begins in Dallas, TX, when Trey White the current CEO "founded" it. Evolv is a direct sales company that claims to have been spawned by the collective efforts of a team of scientists and experienced entrepreneurs, multilevel marketers and direct sellers. They distribute "nutraceutically enhanced" water, that they claim is actually special because it helps you absorb oxygen better, hence providing health benefits by correcting a seemingly universally oxygen deficiency. I have certainly read that most people do not breathe correctly and generally do suffer long term effects, in the west in particular, but I have never heard of water as being the cure.

      Evolv water is said to have been developed from a decade and a half of extensive research and "scientific development". The company claims that it's premiere product combines the alleged colorless and flavorless "Archaea Active" formula with spring water in order improve hydration stamina, energy, endurance and the body's ability to absorb oxygen. I have been unable to find any scientific evidence that Archaea Active is a legitimate substance anywhere on the Internet aside from the company's own web site. There are no empirically accepted studies that are public at least suggesting that Evolv has any benefit on the human body aside from hydration, which you can get for free from a faucet, or from a Poland Springs bottle if you are really intent on paying for it. Recently, Evolv joined forces with XOWii, for reasons unknown aside from those given by both companys' CEOs whom stated that the products and comp plans would be perfect if they were combined as one.

      Many speculate that both companies were bombing and needed to combine in order to stay afloat in a nose-diving economy. Whatever the reasons are, I don't see a ton of progress by either company when looking at figures and rep numbers, in fact if anything, this is the least tempting time to bother with either one in the history of their existence. Naturally,


      Evolv Health offers the chance to earn income by getting involved with their company. As it is no surprise, I am not thrilled with the idea, and I think its a scam, but I certainly haven't been involved with them, and who knows, maybe the scam has made a significant number of reps richer, but I somehow doubt it. Commissions and bonuses are based on sales performance, of "discounted" products sold at "retail" price.

      One of the more telling scam accusations comes from the company's blatant misuse of a doctor's name in their advertising, in which Evolv claimed the product was tested and endorsed by M. D. Anderson Cancer center, and M.D. Anderson himself, which was not true. The product wasn't even tested on humans and only left being dubbed as non-toxic. Well good job Evolv, the one thing that proved conclusive is that your product won't kill us, well, we would know for sure if it was actually tested on a human subject. 

    • March 31, 2011 1:45 AM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      Wow...

      Do u really think people aren't going to see through this as a personal attack against me? Such a classy post, I hope you're proud of yourself. I have been peaceful toward you and non-reactive to your constant bashing, but you have no limits to how far you're willing to go to put me or Evolv down. I think its like soooooo immature and I won't be interacting with you anymore, so please do not reply or get involved in any of my posts. If you want to remain unevolved, then that is on you, but I would appreciate it if you stop adding negative and derogatory comments to my posts.

      /delete you.

    • March 31, 2011 11:55 PM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      I don't think he was "attacking" you per say, Katie, but I have to be honest Evolv doesn't present well, at least not in your posts. There I said it, and I sincerely apologize if I am being rude. The lack of credible proof and M.D. Anderson is true, you can't deny it, I remember reading about it almost a year ago. I think Wallace could have made the point without mentioning "the Evolv poster" at all, but for all we know he could have meant that we know it works because of your testimony. I also want to say that you really have no business criticizing anyway, didn't you just say things about him in another thread? I usually don't get involved but it bugs me when people start acting like victims. You are not a victim, you are just as harsh as anyone else here, and you can be just as critical, judgmental and rude as Wallace. You never seem to recognize that, let alone apologize, and that is the difference I have noticed between you and other posters. You can be nasty and actually be proud of it...that's not a virtue honey, they have a name for that.

    • April 1, 2011 2:12 AM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      I'm going to thank everyone for participating in the subject, but I think its time for this to be put to bed. I edited out the remark involving another forum poster, because it was basically unnecessary and not one of my more mature, well thought out comments. It has come to my attention that it really is ridiculous overall. I will probably always be a bit harsh in my criticism regarding companies I feel are scams, but I can definitely take another poster's advice that engaging in a head butt leaves no winner....I don't remember where I heard that statement but it rings so true lol. It doesn't do anyone any good to debate something into the ground, leaving nothing but a string of negative arguing. I generally like almost everyone who has joined the forum, and I definitely don't want new people joining and then finding all the argumentive nonsense a turn off, this is a great place after all. So from here on out, I will not be even mildly joking about any other forum posters, regardless of what they say to or about me, and regardless of the lightness of the joke, its just not what I want to spend my time doing.

    • April 1, 2011 2:42 AM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      Oh dear God, not you too!

      I am going to have to hold a seminar about free speech and the ability to sift through a few arguments in pursuit of TRUTH! lol. I expect our buddy Jeroqui to go this route but c,mon Wallace, this was hardly an argument, minus a few small "social anomalies"....Even Linda got up in there and spoke some gospel, don't you start censoring yourself to. If there is anything to say to the contrary, maybe its just that we stop talking about the company and or facts in favor of arguments....bah, lightweights!

    • April 1, 2011 11:25 PM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      To be safe............. I think I will remain unevolved...

       

      Thanks.....................

       

      Hey guys at least it won't kill you ?

       

       

    • April 6, 2011 12:56 AM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      I wasn't censoring myself lol, its just that I'd like to think there is a sense of respect, or maybe just etiquette, and the desire to not have any ontologicalesque arguments. I love debating, I even love arguing, but I don't want it to break down into digging at someone's character personally, this is Repspace, not Jerry Springer. I don't know any of you, I know your posts, the way you write, what you seem more interested in and what you find boring, but I don't know you. I have no right to make judgements, and furthermore, its a forum, I mean you don't even know if the person you're talking to is even real, if they are the person in the picture etc... Look at the way politicians debate (when they aren't slinging mud, or spending 50 billion dollars that could feed the poor on trashing someone's reputation) you'll notice no matter where it goes or how upset they are, they remain respectful, they don't call each names and hit below the belt, at least not blatantly. That's how these debates should go, respectfully, and without childish jabs. I fell victim to it myself, and am my own hardest critic, I am just as guilty as anyone. That was really my only point, that we should be more professional in regard to arguments. As far as bashing products or companies, have a blast, I have no problem poking fun at something I think is a scam.

    • April 7, 2011 12:44 AM PDT
    • Evolv Scam

      I haven't read this entire thread, but I definitely think you should never censor yourself if what you are saying is imperative to your point. Don't misunderstand me though, you can definitely abide by a set of standards that prevent ignorance and belligerence, but I don't feel its right we should all just speak in diplomatinese, although it can be extremely useful in making connections with people. Why fight right? I also agree with Wallace that there is no need for a heated debate to have anything to do with putting people down or trying to make them look or feel like bad people. We are all on our own paths and shouldn't be ashamed or belittled during the times we may do, say or believe in something that is rather visibly wrong. Its all part of being human.

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