Is anyone here in the Power Leg for any of the leaders?

My friend is in one of the 'Power Legs' for one of the leaders.  ( Mike, Fred and Julie, and Salvatore are the only leaders I know of, but I won't say which one ). He is not seeing much growth in the power leg. Only 10 people in the last couple of weeks.

Can anyone offer any actual numbers for the other power legs for the leaders? 

Has anyone found the buy in and the enrollment criteria to be a barrier to entry?

To qualify for commission you have to pay up to 1000.00 for product, plus be on autoship for at least 100.00 per month, plus have two people ALSO qualified. 

If you have actual numbers, please post, but no vague "my leaders are KILLING IT!" replies. I'm looking for honest substantiated numbers.

Cheers

JT

Hi JT,

I joined the Natural News team on 9/25/08 and am at the top level of one of the legs. 

As of today (10/30/08) I've seen steady growth without much effort on my part and now have 43 people under me. 

I got some leads by appearing on the NN distributor page early and have so far signed up 3 Personally Enrolled people.

The buy in and enrollment criteria are a barrier to some, but these tend to be the people who are not very serious anyway.

I put a lot of info on my My Story page.  You can see it at http://www.mymoxxor.com/MyStory.aspx?ID=drfiske

I have people added to my tree almost every day from Natural News, and I now have positions open in my fifth level, if you'd like to get started.

All the best to you,

Michael Fiske, D.C.

I am in  Salvatore Cesareo's team. He was the first leader to join Moxxor.   I am in Las Vegas and he is coming to Vegas almost every Saturday to meet with us.  I even asked him on a Sunday to meet a couple of prospects with me and help me with them. He spoke to them and I was able to enroll them right away!  I know he is helping a lot of his people personally and via webinars and meetings at corporate, right now.  He is doing a lot of work on the payleg of his down line so they can see the money!  Moxxor is not a like winning the lotto, you have to put effort into it.  Even if the power leg becomes huge you still get paid on your payleg, (which is a reflection of your own direct effort).

As far as the money to pay up, where else can you start a business for a $1000? and the $100 authoship is worth every penny of it. you have to take MOXXOR to believe it for yourself then you share it.

I am not going to tell you what my site is or which leader to join, my suggestion is that you start taking MOXXOR to become a believer first.

Cynthia

Hey JT,

It's not just the enrollment fees and commissions. Its the qualification requirement too...

If you enroll and want to have the highest commission level ( 15% in the binary ) you must pay 1000.00 up front, and have 100.00 on monthly autoship.

After spending that, you must enroll two distributors, one on your left and one on your right, who are active with 80 PV ( 100.00 per month in Moxxor personal volume ). ( You said 'qualified' but they just have to be active.

One of the most troubling things I came across is that the owners participate in the comp plan.  That is, they are actually paid out from the binary volume as well as the distributors. At first, this sounds like a "cool, they succeed when we succeed scenario" but its really not.  That's faulty logic and the wrong spin to put on it.

Here's why:

There is a bonus pool and a cap on the binary of 50%.  If the owners hold the top 15 positions in the binary pyramid, all the volume flows through to them through multiple positions. Lets say there is a bonus pool of $20,000.  And its divided among the top distributor positions. You hit the top position ( not really possible with the owners in the binary, but follow the rest of the logic ) and you think you are going to get the lion's share of the bonus pool - but you don't, because the owners keep their percentage for each of the 'company spots' above you.

At the end of the day, its the owners choice to run the business however they want.  No one has to be a Moxxor distributor. But most companies do not participate in their own comp plan for this very reason - it smacks of nepotism within the company.  The company and owners, after all, are also heaping a huge reward on the sale of $60 bottles of supplements that likely have a marginal cost to manufacture.

Once the initial launch activity fades, and people start taking a cold hard look at it, this could become a real issue.  Plus, when people have that barrier to earning a commission - then learning they are playing against a stacked deck - its going to lead to distributors dropping out for a fairer commission proposition, even if the product doesnt have the same sizzle as Moxxor.

I don't think Moxxor will experience the explosive growth they predicted. I wouldn't be surprised if sales are already flattening, and this should be a total growth period. 

Time will tell. But my money is on a comp plan revision within six months. Even then, momentum will be lost.

Thats pretty good growth in the powerleg compared to what I've been told of other company powerlegs.

So, with the 3 personally enrolled, are you now fully qualified and receiving commissions?

Is your open position in the company power leg?

Cheers

Good info.

Is it true that the owners of the company also participate in the comp plan?

JT

Hi Moxfox,

Just wondering if you are Moxxor member? You said....

"If you enroll and want to have the highest commission level ( 15% in the binary ) you must pay 1000.00 up front, and have 100.00 on monthly autoship. "

That statement is somewhat true but you Don't have to pay that $1000. up front. You can reach that 15% (18 bottle purchase) pay level automatically just by being on auto delivery yourself every month for 9 months. Likewise, you can reach the 10% (12 bottle purchase) pay level the same way in 6 months and 5% (6 bottle purchase) pay level in 3 months "without" purchasing any Biz Paks.  However if you seriously plan on enrolling a ton of members right away, then yes you would want to buy the Pro Pak to reach the 15% pay level immediately. But again, you can also quickly reach those pay levels just from your and/or your enrollees initial bottle purchases! See the specific pay levels with optional Biz Paks:
https://www.mymoxxor.com/EnrollNowPackageSelection.aspx?wid=50f24bd4-9422-4e2c-9fd8-6e2c013b8c6d&ID=store

Alternatively, if you don't have the money right now & you don't want to risk missing the opportunity of a lifetime to be in an upper level spot, than I suggest you lock in your position now just by paying the minimal membership fee of $50. By select invitation, I became a qualified distributor directly beneath one of the front-line distributors who is an honest and highly respected health journalist that is growing a huge downline team through us to benefit his natural health causes. You have a rare chance to get in at the top with me right now.

For more information on our team's exclusive free pre-qualified leads & free promotional tools including: articles, flash presentations, downloads, automatic web pages and examples of the compensation plan, please visit here: http://moxxmarine.com

Give the tiny but highly potent & pristine all natural Moxxor capsule a try to better your health. Your body craves omega-3 and there's no better omega-3 supplement in the world then Moxxor. You can't lose with their 90-day money back guarantee.

Tina

I am fully qualified, am on the distributor lead page, and am receiving commissions.  I was eligible for my first commission last Sunday, but it takes ten days to post, so I don't have it yet.

I'm really grateful for this opportunity.  Forty people have been automatically added to my downline so far without my doing anything, and the three that I signed up I got from Mike Adams' lead page.

The reason it has grown so much is that Mike Adams is totally behind it and is advertising and promoting it very heavily on his website and newsletter.  He fully believes in the product and the company, wants to generate income for the other causes he believes in, and wants to help other conscious and dedicated people become more prosperous.

My open position is in the Natural News powerleg.  Anyone signing up under me will get all of Mike Adams' very extensive support (detailed at http://www.mymoxxor.com/MyStory.aspx?ID=drfiske), plus my own personal support.  I'm a chiropractor -- I know a lot about supplements and I use them a lot, both on myself and my patients.  As I use Moxxor more with patients, I'll share case histories with you that you can pass on to others.

All the best,

Michael

Thanks for the clarification on the binary commission and purchase requirements.

Here's  two other questions: The MOXXOR site says "Most powerful all natural omega-3 and antioxidant on the planet exclusively from ... New Zealand"

Does that mean its the "Most powerful all natural omega-3 and antioxidant on the planet" or only the most powerful one available exclusively from New Zealand?

Can the product, including the biz packs, all be returned within 90 days for full refund, or only retail sales?

The compensation plan is innovative. The biggest issue will be can the firm keep its spare and partime Representatives in place with the higher then average qualifications.

Hi MoxFox,

It means  the "Most powerful all natural omega-3 and antioxidant on the planet". Very potent, one capsule is3950 more effective than Flax oil, 247 times more effective than Salmon oil and 158 times more than Fish oil.

Yes distributors can return any unused product in resalable condition within 90 days with prior authorization.

Tina
http://moxxmlm.com

Remember People:

You must take the product to experience your own health benefits. AND...As with any natural supplement, Moxxor being no exception, we are not allowed to make health claims, stories or insinuations about the product.

As taken directly from the Moxxor Policies:

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5.12.2 Product Claims

No claims (which include personal testimonials) as to therapeutic, curative, or beneficial properties of any products offered by MOXXOR may be made except those contained in Official MOXXOR Literature. In particular, no Distributor may make any claim that MOXXOR products are useful in the cure, treatment, diagnosis, mitigation, or prevention of any diseases. Distributors are not allowed to make health claims. Such statements can be perceived as medical or drug claims. Not only do such claims violate MOXXOR policies, but they potentially violate federal and state laws and regulations, including the federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and Federal Trade Commission Act.   

Tina
http://moxxmlm.com

Moxfox says

Does that mean its the "Most powerful all natural omega-3 and antioxidant on the planet" or only the most powerful one available exclusively from New Zealand.

I am afraid the above statement is absolute rubbish. There is not one shred of evidence to back up such an outlandish claim. The actual EFA from the Moxxor mussel oil component are pathetic. Lyprinol has many times the EPA and DHA and is half the price. Even Krill oil is far more powerful with its highly bioavailable  phospholipids.

Lets get into some scientific proof here instead of frenzied hype.

The compensation plan is innovative.

What aspects do you find innovative? It looks like a typical binary to me, with a cap on the payout at 50%.

And if the owners own the top spots, and they get paid out on all the volume too, doesn't that lower the actual total payout to the field reps?

How Powerful IS Moxxor, Anyway?

I'm a chiropractor physician in California.  My Chiropractic Assistant Letty is 25 years old and was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis when she was 17.

Ever since, she has had continuous aches and pains, her joints have been always swollen, and she has been constantly fatigued.

Every day, she needed to take 5 mg of Prednisone (a powerful steroidal anti-inflammatory), together with 2 Advil in the morning and 2 Advil in the afternoon, just to reduce the pain enough to make it through the day.

She started taking 2 Moxxor per day. After one week, she felt no different. I advised her to increase the dosage to 4 per day.

Immediately (that same day) she felt a burst of energy -- more than she had felt in years. And her aches and pains completely, totally disappeared.

She has been taking 4 Moxxor per day for 2 weeks. She still feels wonderful. She has fantastic energy, all through the day. She has NO aches and pains. And her joints are not swollen.

This is an absolutely phenomenal change that took place almost instantly. As a doctor who is highly educated about natural health, I know of no other product on the face of the earth that could make so intense a change this quickly.

She no longer needs to take Advil, ever. And she has reduced her dosage of Prednisone to 2.5 mg per day. The only reason she has not stopped Prednisone completely is that her MD told her it could damage her body if she stopped too suddenly. (This is ironic, since Prednisone is known to have severe side effects if you continue to take it over a long time.)

It looks like Moxxor is a real miracle product.

Best wishes,

Michael Fiske D.C.

www.moximum.com

Fantastic!!!!!!!!! Finally someone with REAL intelligence.

Yes, The GSM oil that Moxxor sells is NOT PROCESSED USING THE PATENTED process developed by Dr. Whitehouse!! It is processed with chemicals.

It is not the same grade as Lyprinol!!! It does NOT contain the levels of EPA and DHA which are the active lipids needed for relief of some symptoms.

The reason that Moxxor does work to some extent is simple. The body of almost everyone is very deficient in these elements so even getting a small amount into the bloodstream is a god send for the body.

All sources of GSM oil that has been processed with the Whitehouse process are BETTER than Moxxor!

Lyprinol does cost almost half of Moxxor, and WHY when it is a far superior GSM oil? BECAUSE IT IS NOT BOGGED down with a scam MLM marketing scheme. That is why.

More Interesting facts about Moxxor:

The Gelcap used contains MSG, and Bovine materials that are supplied by animal "rendering factories" If you do not know what these are I highly suggest that you Google the term You will be shocked and sickened, and may vomit. It is an elaborate marketing scheme with a 95 - 99.5% failure and attrician rate. Moxxor has been reviewd by  http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/EvalsH-M.htm and found to be yet another mlm scam.

The touted Orac value of their grape antioxidant also needs to be looked at. The Moxxor website does NOT provide the ACTUAL ORAC test results. It does however provide the "nutricional" value report. This is NOT the same thing at all. The Orac report will contain KEY information about the elements that make up the ORAC report like Gallic Acid percentage....Folks this is VERY important but strangly missing from the moxxor site.

Bottom line if you are going to be involved with any product DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! do not just swallow the marketing garbage, what are you doing! o.k. fine bend your heads back open your mouths pinch your nose from the stench and swallow.

Oh yea Right! The charity work that they do.....Yea just the same way the mafia mobsters gave to charity to to help with "credibility" issues. Come on people pull your heads out of your annuses.

Promote products and services that are REALLY GOOD for people, not just hype and to line your pockets by suckering in others to another mlm scheme. Moxxor knows full well that over 90% of you who join will NOT EARN ANYTHING! They have a 90% drop out rate. Check Alexa on Google you will see they are in the toilet and going down no matter what they say The numbers do not lie!!!! Their Demographics are horrible! they do not care about the product getting to the right people to help people health wise Hell No they are targeting suckers just like all of you who have "Bought In" To the deception. Don't believe what I am saying? Fine then do not search Alexa On google the international web indexing portal.

Hello Dr. Fiske,

I see that your a practicing chiropractor who is a distributor with Moxxor . I just recently became a distributor on october 17th and I would like to target many of the chiropracters, acupuncturists, & herbalists, in my area and introduce this product & opportuntiy to them could you give me some pointers on what to do and what not to do . Your input is greatly appreciated .

Sincerely,

Mark