Better prices than COSTCO, SAMS, WALMART or any
other local company. The company has a 2 week price guarantee. Find
a lower price and get twice the money back.

My Harvest America launched on 12/22 and already thousands of
families are using our service and many of us are already earning
exceptional income in our first few days.

This is the easiest business out there. Everyone is our prospect
and when prospects see the prices the can not believe how much they
can save. And it is shipped to your door at no cost.

Is this the exact same company that was around in 2000 called "Harvest America" then later "Harvesting America" after a class action lawsuit against Consumer Buyline, and then was reported as closed?

Harvesting America Logo Circa 2000:

New Logo 2009:

Very similar?

From the Class Action lawsuit:

Consumers' Buyline, Inc. advertises that members can obtain discounts on products and services. Such as exclusive low prices on over 250,000 National Brand name products and 5% discounts on airline tickets. Membership in CBI also entitles the member to purported discounts on purchases from an exclusive skin care company. Consumers' Buyline, Inc. also offers members a discount of 1% of the purchase or sale on "virtually" any home. Consumers' Buyline's standardized promotional literature and sales presentations describe several of these "product service providers," through which its members are required to purchase in order to obtain discounts and rebates, including PPI and "Harvest America", a mail order grocery service. Consumes' Buyline, Inc. claims to have made special "exclusive" arrangements with these services. Membership in CBI entitles the member to the supposed benefits available through PPI. The "Harvest America" another services generally require additional fees.

From the 2000 Harvest America website:

Bringing The Best Of America To Your Table... For Less!

Harvesting America is a national movement of consumers dedicated to the goal of lowering the price of food in America!

The Company intends to accomplish this by leveraging the power of individuals through the Internet into a strong and powerful national alliance. The goal of the alliance is to utilize the Internet to communicate, shop and to actively participate in changing the way we purchase food in America. Dedicated to free enterprise principles, Harvesting America will lead, build and support the infrastructure that will become the center for this exciting revolution in food shopping.

Harvesting America is a national home delivery service that offers consumers Guaranteed Low Prices on over 10,000 items, all with Free Delivery! Consumers who join the alliance network will have an opportunity to actively participate in lowering grocery prices while earning incentives for their participation.

For more information on this exciting opportunity, E-mail us today and ask to be put on our mailing list!

Same management? Now it's MyHarvestAmerica?

Has anything changed, and do you know what failed before? It looks like the exact same business, exact same model.

Any idea what happened to Frederick Weih's other companies? TapCity and Celestial Harvest?

From the original "Harvesting America" website:

Mr. Weih has 15 years of experience in developing e-commerce and mail order grocery shopping. His working prototypes give him the experience and maturity to bring this concept to the next level. Over 100 newspaper articles, studies and industry reports have been written about Mr. Weih's home shopping concepts and working prototypes. No other individual has been involved in modern home grocery shopping longer than Mr. Weih.

As co-founder of Harvesting America, Mr. Weih directs idea conception, plus the day to day operations, supplier networks, and public relations. Under his leadership, mail order grocery shopping has grown from a visionary idea in 1986 to a national e-commerce consumer movement today. Prior to founding Harvesting America, Mr. Weih has served as President of Celestial Harvest, Harvest America and Executive Vice President of Tapcity.com. Mr. Weih served his country with the United States Military Academy Band at West Point.

Same crew, same concept, same business?

It's been a year since this article has posted and My Harvest America has come a long way since then.  They have closed down their grocery delivery service and launched a loyalty card program.  While My Harvest America was a good company a year ago its on its way to great now.

I must admit that I am biased because I not only subscribe to My Harvest America’s Loyalty Program, I am an Independent Representative. I have been an entrepreneur my whole adult life and honestly, I have generally stayed away from network marketing like the plague. But this is too good a program not to deserve a try.

Even if you never promote it as a business (although it is actually a good one) you can easily add $170 to your purchasing power every month. All it takes is 15 minutes of your time to order your cards.

With the cost of everything escalating faster than any of our incomes who can’t use an extra $170 a month for 15 minutes of your time?  At the end of 12 months that translates into a little over $2,000 in additional buying power!  What would you do with an extra $2,000 a year.

My Harvest America is all about making your budget dollars go further. And, is proud and excited to offer you this entirely new opportunity to save money and make money starting today!
You can spend $50, $100, or even $300 in your favorite Grocery Store or Gas Station, or just about anywhere that accepts credit and debit cards… and enjoy an additional INSTANT 25% savings Guaranteed! Shop for the best prices for what you need – using coupons, sales, or any promotion you can – to get the best deal on products you want at the stores you like… then enjoy an additional 25% savings instantly!
Enjoy the Benefits and discounts of the Premier Loyalty Package PLUS the ability to make your money stretch even further. As our gift to you for being an Elite Loyalty Package subscriber, you can save up to 40% with a Gift Card to use at America’s Largest Retailer!  For additional information stop by my website:
http://www.myharvestamerica.com/fab4less
 It is the only program I have seen where it costs you $170 a month NOT TO PARTICIPATE!!!!  And, if you choose to share the program with a few friends who share it with a few friends, the sky’s the limit.  I’m not going to tell you that you will earn $40K plus per month (although that is possible) but wouldn’t even a few hundred or a thousand dollars a month come in handy? 

If you would like to learn more feel free to call or email me 386-589-6930. Or, if you have any questions about this company, email me at lilsfab4less@gmail.com I would also be happy to answer questions or feel free to go to my website: http://www.myharvestamerica.com/fab4less

No hard sales pitches, if you can do simple math you will realize that it pays to participate.

Is this the exact same company that was around in 2000 called "Harvest America" then later "Harvesting America" after a class action lawsuit against Consumer Buyline, and then was reported as closed?

No, not the same company at all. Harvest America was an earlier version of a similar company that Fred Weih launched several years ago. That company was only one component of a multilevel marketing company called CDI. Harvest America did not control the company, the comp plan, or anything other than the service that was offered the the MLM parent company.

When that company had problems with civil suits and regulators, the doors were eventually closed.

My Harvest America is a completely new entity that is not attached to or associated with any other entity.  The original founder, Fred Wieh is operating with a new partner, Ron Ellis. The company has only been open seven days, and those days were over a holiday period, and yet they seem to be getting a considerable amount of interest.

There is a new profile on the company at Npros.com:

My Harvest America

Also, Harvest America was a catalog shopping company, My Harvest America utilizes current technology for web based shopping.

This a very wonderful idea to be able to participate in such a program. I can see that large families would probably benefit from ordering their food this way, and perhaps those without transportation. I was wondering if there is a way I can view a product catalogue to see what variety you offfer in addition to the appearence of any organic products. Is my Harvest America a distributor of foods that are already produced by other companies or does it actually package and produce its own products?

Very interesting concept.

Memories,

I go way back with Fred, and although when he was servicing CBI, he was not an MLM at the time.  This came later with Grocery Club which I enjoyed success with back in '95, but sadly, as this was a catolog at the time, I had suggested and offered to bring concept online, and to think where it would be today if not for a partner who was against it.

Long story short, it was not that company concept was not good, it was just a little ahead of its time. Most people didn't shop from catologs, and certainly, few were shopping online at the time, in fact, I was one of early advocates of online marketing and I transisitioned my traditional business to online at the same time.

Now with Amazon sales going through the roof, and billions of dollars of products and services from hundreds of thousands of companies online, now is the right time to bring back groceries to MLM online.  Everyone wants to save money in a recession, and since this has been my focus for past couple years seeing this recession coming, I focus on only verifiable value, not the usual get rich quick MLM deals out there. 

With groceries being the number one consumable, the largest market in the world as everyone eats, what could be more perfect than wholesale discount online groceries direct?  I have seen them all, and this one just makes too much sense not to become a member.  Tansfer buying is not selling, and since most people in MLM cannot and do not like to sell, this is the perfect attrition proof business in my experience.  The timing is perfect, and the savings are absolute, and the selection of name brand products amazing, plus as I am into organics which local stores charge twice the amount for, this is a huge money saver for those into organic foods as I am.

Success to all,

Funny,

I have never seen so many failures to deliver as this deal.  I go way back to original CBI, then when that flopped, The Grocery Club, and that too flopped, then Harvesting America, next Harvest America and now Fleece America, what is next.  Those are the ones I recall, perhaps there are more, but it is pretty sad to learn of latest change.  The debit card ponzi was not sustainable, and it was to be temporary while they supposedly were lining up another grocery supplier, but having stated it was coming last November, obviously it didn't.  Now they are playing same game with credit card sleeves which are only pennies a piece elsewhere, and somewhat useless besides, but hey, they are desperate to keep it going evidently.  Too bad, I always liked the concept of groceries direct at discount, but I doubt that will ever be reintroduced.  Good luck to all, I have moved on.

Free-Food-Bank

Couldn't agree with you more, Mike. This is one of those that just "feels right" in all aspects.

I get more and more confident and comfortable with this company everyday. I got my first order and was amazed that it was exactly as promised. Sometimes you just have to see it with your own eyes to believe it...and I believe it 100%.

The only objection I am getting to the opportunity is that some single people do not buy enough groceries to warrant the small membership fee. Other than that, who can argue with the logic of "Would it be worth it to you to spend $29.95 a month if it meant you would save 4,5 or 6 times that amount...maybe more?"  The overwhelming answer is YES.

Good luck to all. I think 2010 will be the year of My Harvest America and I am glad my upline brought it to me early.

Regards,

Enrico

I have never seen so many failures to deliver as this deal.  I go way back to original CBI, then when that flopped, The Grocery Club, and that too flopped, then Harvesting America, next Harvest America and now Fleece America, what is next. 

Hi FreeHome,

Are you aying that CBI, The Grocery Club, and Harvest America are all run by the same people, or that they all have the same business model?

I'm not sure why Freehome is so sure that My Harvest America is going to fail.  I have been a member now for many months and I am getting my cards and commission checks every month.  The savings are great and the company is working hard to provide top quality marketing tools.  I suggest everyone see for themselves before deciding. 

http://theharvestcrew.com/user/cashnow

Yes, Fred was involved with all of them, with different partners each time.

Simple,

It is the pattern of failure, and when groceries were terminated, most people dropped out for the value was gone.  Debit card system was temporary fix, and then promised groceries never materialized, so you perhaps came in with only the debit cards, and yes, there was value there, and commissions were being paid, but any pyramid which slows up considerable is doomed, so experience says this is why they had to switch to cc sleeves, something which padded the profits more than just the debit card.  Besides, every debit or gas card deal has failed for same reasons, they cannot survive unless more new people come in to support the payouts to older subscribers.  I have seen it a thousand times, so all I can say is enjoy it while you can.  Ask yourself one question, would you purchase these useless cc sleeves for $250. if not for the income opportunity?  I rest my case, but again, I hope you get your money back and not lose any. I know the grocery industry very well, and when you lose your suppliers over and over, there is something wrong with this model.

Free-Food-Bank

Out of curiosity, and I know this is semi off-topic, but for some reason I zoned right in on it and became fascinated.  I used to handle suppliers of hardware, tools, lumber, etc so I am interested in the dynamics of how it differs with food. What I'm wondering is, what kind of reasons caused the suppliers to stop getting involved, was it a money issue, a supply issue or aelgal issue?

Hi Wallace,

     I don't know the answer to your specific Question but I have always had one of my own.  I have found no specific evidence that the loss of suppliers was the reason the grocery business had to shut down.  I have seen lots of rumor and innuendo which on the internet can spread like wildfire and quickly become "fact".  I have also seen rumors that it was shipping cost that caused the company to move out of grocery delivery.  In any event the company itself never shut down as far as I can tell and all of its people had a chance to move over to the new business model.  Given the severity of what is alleged by disgruntled members I have found very little company bashing internet wide.  And I did look.  I can only go by my own experience,  I buy my cards I get my cards. I am entitled to commissions, I get a check for my commissions.  Is the company extremely efficient and "together"  NO but the seem to be trying hard to address the issues.  As to the sleeves, I have presented them to small non-profits as a fundraiser and they have been well received.  They get a donation for each sleeve purchased and I get a tax writeoff.  The sleeves have my contact info on them so I expect they will also be a business builder. 

LillianRose

Good question,

One which I could not verify since first company started to solicit members when they dropped MHA. so when they said it was a money issue, it sounded obvious that they were not being paid, so take it for what it is worth.  The bottom line is simply this, when they moved over to second supplier, this too lasted only a couple months, so was it too a money issue?  I cannot imagine any company would enter into a relationship with a supplier without an iron clad contract and agreement, and apparently there was no contract with these two suppliers, and if there was, I am sure non payment would be only way to end agreement.  I had no real complaint about all the groceries I ordered outside of a couple missing items and broken or crushed, all of which a credit was issued, so I was as sorry as anyone to see groceries end.  I was saving a couple hundred a month, plus the time saving convenience, so I hung on when they promised last Nov. that new grocery supplier was soon to be announced.  Still nothing, so are they liars, or did their new supplier find out the truth from two previous suppliers.  Makes you wonder, doesn't it? 

Again, I cannot confirm the above reason other than conversation with supplier, but you don't get dropped as a distributor for no reason, and it would have been suicide if MHA dropped their only supplier without having a second one in place already, and as it took months, it was obvious they didn't, so any business person would know this was not by MHA's choice to have to change suppliers.  A friend visited first supplier and it was a joke.  It was a small grocery store with a couple kids running up and down isles picking orders.  When delay in shipping became an issue, they stated they were moving to larger facility, it turned out to be moving to an adjoining garage which was what grocery pickers told my people investigating operation.  They didn't know who they were talking to, so I take their word over MHA.  So believe me, when problems arose, our group dug as deeply as possible to find the truth, for which anyone of you could have done the same, it was not hard to find the truth.  Many of us put a lot of effort into this deal, and having known main owner for years, I was extremely disappointed, not only when Grocery Club failed back in late 90's for similar reasons, and then Harvesting America did same a few years later, for which I didn't waste my time on, but MHA was proof enough these guys are full of it in my experience.

FREE-FOOD-BANk

Thanks for the factual response.  I was getting tired of the vague "its a scam and everybody got ripped off" allegations.  Unlike you, I do not personally know any of the principals.  However having spent many years as a consultant with start-ups I know that the answer is almost always more complicated.  I am guessing here but it looks like the previous programs may have been victims of their own success. Many times if you are under-capitalized it shows not only when you do not grow fast enough but also when you grow too fast.  You can't invest capital in expansion because you don't have it.  you can't hire more people because you can't afford it.  you may stick with a supplier who can't fulfill because you don't have the ability to go elsewhere.  Lastly, I practiced law for a number of years and learned that, especially when things go bad, there are three sides to every story.  Yours, mine and the truth.  Anyway, that is my two cents. 

Lastly, I am new to this forum but that big spammy ad that came before your post...was that really allowed?

Lillianrose

Hi Lil,  re MHA

I was comfortable with ordering product from MHA given that my credit card company backed any fraud or non-delivery of product.  Perhaps, your law background can shed some light on the current situation.  If the sleeves are delivered, but rebate checks not, do you think credit card companies would say the product was delivered, the rebate check is an income problem with MHA and the credit card company does not need to credit back the purchase? 

H in hawaii

Is this like Peapod? I think that was a program run by Stop N Shop that allowed people to fill up a digital cart online with the groceries they wanted and have them delivered in a truck, but I can't really see why shipping would be a major problem, because its relatively easy to maintain cool temperatures in a truck so long as yall can make a full load of deliveries within a close enough radius. I think if anything, it was irregular ordering and distance that put an end to this type of business, not to mention the possibility of mistakes, which you can't simply expect most people to bother having to send it back, nor would it be very feasible to send trucks back out every time someone is sent the wrong item. Groceries aren't pizza lol, and I think it was probably a combination of these kinds of problems that make grocery delivery difficult. I don't know how My Harvest America will fair, but it would definitely be interesting to see how an MLM fairs against the many failed mainstream business attempts. I'd be surprised to see if they end up succeeding where so many other attempts failed.

Good question,

It was originally designed as a home food delivery system, similar to Peapod, but unlike Peapod, who had leased their own trucks and delivery people, MHA was using UPS or FedX, so the pick and packing was done by kids at a traditional small grocery store and I had a friend visit and ask questions about relationship, there was no contract, nothing more than a concept which failed given it was a losing strategy due to high cost of shipping in this manner.  We all know what happened when fuel prices spiked, well prices went up on shipping which compounded issue of handling expenses.

As I see it, looking back, it was a strategy which was doomed to fail.  Why, simple, you can only operate for so long when there is no profit coming in other than the upfront fees paid by the new subscribers.  In short, this was a pyramid as I now see it.  Sure, we all got our groceries in the beginning, but covering the shipping costs was dependent on new subscribers, and when they lost the first supplier, this stoppage in grocery delivery was the first sign it was about to come to an end.  With concerns of getting deliveries, what do you think happened, people stopped joining MHA, and many stopped paying their monthly subscribers fees, meaning, no money was coming in to support program.  Just as every pyramid operates, no new money, no paying out to the older subscribers, so there you have it.

By introducing the debit card pyramid, operating on same concept, new members would fund the perceived value one was getting by purchasing the debit cards.  But where was the profit coming from when everyone knows you do not purchase these debit cards at a discount, so the only money coming in was from monthly subscribers, and like with the groceries, how long can you operate this way?  Sooner or later when the new subscriber money dries and slows down, now there is no money to pay the older subscribers, and this is what I see happening with debit cards, and why they now had to find another scheme, which is the credit card sleeves.  The same problem will exist all over again, when new subscribers stop coming in, then people stop getting paid, it is that simple.  Is this what is going on?  Who knows, but doing the math, this model will not work just as it didn't when groceries were being shipped, sooner or later the money runs out, and hopefully anyone reading this will run before that happens.  As to those who charge on their credit cards, if they get sleeves, but no rebate, you just may find out the credit card companies will not refund you since they did have proof of delivery of product, even if it was not worth it without the rebate, so beware.

Success to all,

Freehome, you are the MAN, or WOMAN of course, I have generally enjoyed your input on this thread and you seem to have a ton of info on all of these. If you don't mind my asking, is Eco solutions what you're involved with now?

On the Chargeback issue...it is my understanding that if you do not get what you were expecting (and that includes the free premium) you are entitled to ask your credit card company to reverse the charge.  Every may be different but that seems to be the consensus. 

As to whether the company needs new money to pay new orders.  It is my understanding that there is a business model that does not have such a dependency.

Thanks,

I research them all looking for the diamond in the rough, and as a trend analyst, I look for what is unique and well positioned in the market.  This obviously is my focus in energy alternative industry as well, and my main business is developing a new plasma powered motor, so my main focus is this, but my other businesses have been funding development on this new technology.  Since we all eat, MHA was one such business I put a lot of hope in, sadly, it was a major disappointment, but then again, very few of these programs ever pay off, but I keep researching them all knowing that there are a few which will pay off in the long term, but MHA isn't one of them as I see it.

Success to all,

I don't post often but once in awhile I like to lurk and read the latest info being pushed around here on Repspace. I want to tell you from personal experience that this was one exception among network marketing companies of bad products or company structures. My harvest America was pretty damn awesome. I ordered 69 items and paid $118.97, which I followed up with a full price check item for item the next day at a local stop n shop and there was no comparison. I did exact item for item, no generic brands in either purchase. Not only would I have gone in person to go get them, but I'd have paid $246.90. That was enough for me, and its worth having to pre-order my food for a family of 3.

People were always complaining about delivery time, delivery method, and I can understand that its tradition to go out and hand pick all your stuff, but in today's economy how many of you can afford to get exactly what you want, when you want? I read something about a new shipping company taking over, I didn't read the full article but it was supposed to streamline some of their processes and result in faster groceries. The other thing I thought was awesome was that I got exactly what I ordered, right down to an unusually obscure gum that my son likes and I can only ever see to find it at gas stations.

People have been pushing for a more public product list so that non-members can see the price difference and for some reason there hasn't been one established yet, but I assure you, if you had tried it, you'd have noticed seriously large differences in product prices, and the quality and condition of every item I ordered was exactly the same, squeaky clean, factory sealed and fresh. This is an economic thing which is why I was so enthusiastic about it, it didn't have to make you money, just the money you saved made it well worth it. The more I go over it, I can't understand what the reason a price list was never established for, they would have tripled their membership easily if people saw how severe the savings actually is.

I did not know that MHA still had its grocery delivery business.  I an part of the secure sleeves/rebate program and like mlm_rambo, quite happy.  I get my checks and I get my commissions and I have gotten my sleeves.