Could someone list the pricing for the following:

Cost to join at each of the member levels, Bronze, Silver and VIP

and

the cost of the 1 gram, 2.5 gram and 5 gram KaratBars.

I'd like to see how the pricing compares to the going price of a full ounce - realizing of course that buying a larger quantity would make an obvious difference in price. Just a matter of how much.

Pricing Facts

The troy ounce (oz t) is a unit of imperial measure. In the present day it is most commonly used to gauge the mass of precious metals. One troy ounce is currently defined as exactly 0.0311034768 kg or 31.1034768 g. One troy ounce is equivalent to approximately 1.09714 avoirdupois ounces.

The troy ounce is part of the troy weights system, many aspects of which were indirectly derived from the Roman monetary system. The Romans used bronze bars of varying weights as currency. An aes grave weighed equal to 1 pound. One twelfth of an aes grave was called an uncia, or in English an "ounce". Later standardization would change the ounce to 1/16 of a pound (the avoirdupois ounce), but the troy ounce, which is 1/12 of a troy pound (note that a troy pound is lighter than an avoirdupois pound), has been retained for the measure of precious metals. At 480 grains, the troy ounce is heavier than the avoirdupois ounce, which weighs 437 1/2 grains (exact by definition), about 10 percent more than the avoirdupois ounce, which is 28.349523125 g

When producing 31 grams from a single ounce bar, the labor will also increase by 31 times. The labor is intensified due to each unit must have a serial number and is assayed for weight, purity & fineness separately.

Gram weights are normally so expensive to produce that most refineries do not offer individual grams for sale, much less, allowing the purchase of one gram at a time.

The important factor is the premium/production costs, needed to produce the smaller units, will stay attached forever.

When selling to a reputable dealer, they will also recognize the production costs of the smaller units and also respect the premium.

Let's compare this on the opposite side of the Gold Industry.

Let's say you want to purchase a kilo or good delivery bar. (400 oz bar) You are likely to hear the term, below spot or spot minus 2%... This simply means it takes less labor to produce, assay, serialize, mint, store 1 kilo rather than 32 -1 ounce bars or 1000 = 1 gram bars.

The key to really know the value is to look at our competitors and read the small print on the additional, storage, delivery and minimums required to purchase.

I suggest using your preferred search engine and then do a search for the following key words to prove the value in the marketplace for a product comparable to a Karatbar.

LBMA kinebar (hologram) 1 gram 999.9 gold bullion 10/05/2013 pricing

Gold de Royale Bullion

Example: http://goldderoyale.com.au/shopping/products.php?cat=1&scat=26

http://goldderoyale.com.au/shopping/products.php?cat=1&scat=30

Suisse Gold

Their cost : $84 usd
Karatbars cost: $65.28 (price can be seen at the bottom of the page for similar product)

https://suissegold.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1&keep_https=yes

Their cost: 54.21 € (73.49 usd)
Karatbars cost: 48.15€ (S65.28 usd)

You will also find this very interesting, most Gold Re-sellers constantly show they are out of stock of hologrammed gold products which are produced by an LBMA accredited refinery.

What is a Karatbar & Why is it So Special ???

Our 999.9 pure gold is heat sealed into a card similar to size of a credit card. The card itself acts as the certificate which aids in proving authenticity. Within the body of the card/ certificate you will find, the assayers signature, the valued LBMA stamp (which means the gold that is produced by a refiner who is on the LBMA good delivery list may be used as settlement of debt in the bullion markets)

Last but not least, the unique hologram which adorns the reverse side of the gold gram will all be found within the confines of the Karatbar.

The hologram/kinebar feature was introduced by UBS bank in 1993 and made headlines around the world.

The addition of the embossed hologram on the underside of the gold acts as a security device which proves using a naked eye the product has not been tampered with.

In 1993, UBS bank created the first hologram, they refer to as a kinebar. In 2012, UBS trademarked the name kinebar referring to the hologram. Karatbars followed suit and trademarked the name Karatbars to distinguish our product from others.

With the introduction of this hologram technology, it was the first time in history where owners of physical gold felt comfortable removing the gold from the private vaults and from under the bailsmen watchful eye.

Previously, once removed from the vault, the gold lost value and the burden was on the owner to prove it was purity & authenticity. Many times prior, the gold would have had to been assayed and in many cases re-melted, to actually prove there was not any tampering with the gold and its purity.

You may find that very few brokers actually offer increments as low as a single gram for delivery. People have been paying a higher price for gold produced with a hologram since 1993 when the hologram was introduced to the physical market. It is simply worth quite a bit more when it removes the need or burden for gold owners to " prove it is ,what you say it is."

I am aware of only a few refineries world wide, who offer the single gram weights. This is due to the low profit margins and the increased labor intensity needed to produce the small 1 gram units.

While many brokers will use the gram weight to entice customers, we find when clients look at the small print they see they can not buy "just a single gram." They post the gram price as a sales ploy and in the fine print explain you need to purchase 1000 grams minimum which is the weight of a kilo bar.

The value of a Karatbar is one of the best in the industry based on the size and security features as well as being heat sealed within the certificate of authenticity.

Prices For KARATBARS | Apples to Apples

kb kinebar gold bullion

When you're thinking about the price of KARATBARS gold bullion and you somehow come to the conclusion that the prices are too high, you haven't compared apples to apples. It's like this: A Chevy Cavalier is a car just like a Corvette is a car. Bottom line is they're both cars. But the fact is one costs more, is worth more, and retains its value better. Gold coins, bars, and ingots are all gold, but with varying purity and weights.

Comparing Prices With KARATBARS Gold Bullion

The first thing in comparing prices of ANY commodity is understanding that you must do an apples-to-apples comparison. For example, if you are going to buy a pint of milk you must compare the price with other single pints of milk.

What you DON'T do is find the best price for a GALLON of milk (which, for the sake of discussion, lets say is $4) and then divide $4 by 8 pints (which is 50 cents per pint), and then compare that price to buying a single pint. We all understand what it means to buy in bulk. As with any product, there is what is commonly called volume discounts. The reason bulk prices are less per ounce is very simple: there is more labor cost to produce several units verses one unit, but the flexibility of use benefits are significant with 1-gram gold over larger weights.

To get an accurate price comparison (not taking into consideration the MANY benefits that come with owning a flexible transaction-friendly 1-gram Karatbar), you cannot take the spot price for an ounce of gold and divide it by 31.1. (There are roughly 31.1 grams per troy ounce of gold.) And you cannot take a gram price and multiply it by 31.1. You must price Karatbars gold bullion by the gram against other similar-quality gold that's sold by the gram to make an accurate comparison.
Is The Price of KARATBARS Gold Bullion In Line With What's Out There?

With gold and silver, you pay more for smaller weights regardless of your source. Just like you pay more for 1 can of soda or beer than you would pay for a case of 24 cans. The more you buy, the better price you get.

If you want to be accurate and compare apples to apples, ask your broker what his/her price is for a 999.9-grade 1-gram gold bullion produced by an LBMA-certified refinery? No one can touch Karatbars price! Karatbars has consistently maintained a 2-4% better price. Even if a broker could match or beat Karatbars prices, will they give you free gold for referring others?!? I think not. And all require you to buy many 1-gram bars even if you only want to buy one and although they may advertise they can deliver, they are often out of stock or cannot actually deliver gold in one gram weights.

The Karatbars program is NOT for traders. It is for savers and many ask "what does it cost"? This is a poverty mentality because a wealthy mentality asks "what is it worth"!

Goto youtube http://youtu.be/B1PQaM3j9Ws  for more facts on karatbars

Karatbars Packages

Karatbars Packages; Bronze, Silver, Gold, VIP, Exclusive VIP Packages

Bronze Package Explained:
Cost: Approximately $135 (One Time Fee)
Gold: None
Bonus Cards: One 3% Bonus Discount Card and one 100 Euro Bonus Card

Affiliate Commissions: You earn 5% commission on every package sold to someone that you directly sponsored ( $6.50 for a Bronze affiliate, $15 for a Silver affiliate, $37.50 for a Gold Affiliate and $100 for a VIP Affiliate)

Dual Team commissions: You earn approximately $13 EVERY TIME you have 50 units on one side and 25 units on the other side of your Dual Team System.

NOTE: The following are the units added into the Dual Team regardless of where they fall in your dual team structure or who directly referred them: Bronze package adds 5 units , Silver Package adds 20 units, Gold Package adds 50 units and VIP Package adds 100 units.

Karatbars the new pure gold currency

Silver Package Explained:
Cost: Approximately $307 (One Time Fee)
Gold: One Gold Gram Classic Card
Bonus Cards: Three 3% Bonus Discount Card and three 100 Euro Bonus Cards

Affiliate Commissions: You earn 10% commission on every package sold to someone that you directly sponsored ( $13.00 for a Bronze affiliate, $30 for a Silver affiliate, $75 for a Gold Affiliate and $200 for a VIP Affiliate)…You therefore earn DOUBLE the amount of commissions as compared to those who selected the Bronze package, for the same amount of work you earn more money. If possible upgrade to have your money working for you.

Dual Team commissions: You earn approximately $50 EVERY TIME you have 50 units on one side and 25 units on the other side of your Dual Team System.

NOTE: The following are the units added into the Dual Team regardless of where they fall in your dual team structure or who directly referred them: ( Bronze package adds 5 units , Silver Package adds 20 units, Gold Package adds 50 units and VIP Package adds 100 units).

Gold Package Explained:
Cost: Approximately $774 (One Time Fee)
Gold: Two One Gram Gold Classic Cards
Bonus Cards: Seven 3% Bonus Discount Cards and five 100 Euro Bonus Cards

Affiliate Commissions: You earn 15% commission on every package sold to someone that you directly sponsored ( $19.50 for a Bronze affiliate, $45 for a Silver affiliate, $112.50 for a Gold Affiliate and $300 for a VIP Affiliate)…You therefore earn THREE TIMES the amount of commissions as compared to those who selected the Bronze package, for the same amount of work and 1 1/2 TIMES MORE than if you took the Silver Package.

Dual Team commissions: You earn approximately $80 EVERY TIME you have 50 units on one side and 25 units on the other side of your Dual Team System…..This is 10 TIMES more than Bronze Affiliates earn and 2.5 TIME MORE than Silver Affiliates earn.

NOTE: The following are the units added into the Dual Team regardless of where they fall in your dual team structure or who directly referred them: ( Bronze package adds 5 units , Silver Package adds 20 units, Gold Package adds 50 units and VIP Package adds 100 units).

VIP Package Explained:
Cost: Approximately $2,120 (One Time Fee)
Gold: Three One Gram Gold Classic Cards
Bonus Cards: Ten 3% Bonus Discount Cards and twenty 100 Euro Bonus Cards

Affiliate Commissions: You earn 20% commission on every package sold to someone that you directly sponsored ( $26.00 for a Bronze affiliate, $60 for a Silver affiliate, $150.00 for a Gold Affiliate and $400 for a VIP Affiliate)…You therefore earn 4 TIMES the amount of commissions as compared to those who selected the Bronze package, for the same amount of work, 2 TIMES more than if you took the Silver Package and 1 1/3 TIMES MORE than those who took the Gold Package for every single affiliate that you refer

Dual Team commissions: You earn approximately $100 EVERY TIME you have 50 units on one side and 25 units on the other side of your Dual Team System…..This is 20 TIMES more than Bronze Affiliates earn , 5 TIME MORE than Silver Affiliates earn and 2 TIMES more than what Gold Affiliates earn.

NOTE: The following are the units added into the Dual Team regardless of where they fall in your dual team structure or who directly referred them:
(Bronze package adds 5 units , Silver Package adds 20 units, Gold Package adds 50 units and VIP Package adds 100 units).


Exclusive VIP Package Explained:
Cost: Approximately $10,172 (One Time Fee)

Karatbars Exclusive VIP Package what's included:
5 - Grams of Gold
20 - 100 Euro Bonus Cards
40 - 100 Euro Digital Bonus Cards
10 - 3% Bonus Discount Cards
15 - 3% Digital Bonus Discount Cards
300 - 5 Euro Bonus Cards which can be used for the following products:

Exclusive Wooden Box
All the T-shirts
Champagne
Special Gold Cards (Happy Birthday, I Love You, etc...)

PLUS: All the digital bonus discount codes will be available on an additional USB memory stick.

Affiliate Commissions: You earn 20% commission on every package sold to someone that you directly sponsored ( $26.00 for a Bronze affiliate, $60 for a Silver affiliate, $150.00 for a Gold Affiliate and $400 for a VIP Affiliate)…You therefore earn 4 TIMES the amount of commissions as compared to those who selected the Bronze package, for the same amount of work, 2 TIMES more than if you took the Silver Package and 1 1/3 TIMES MORE than those who took the Gold Package for every single affiliate that you refer

Dual Team commissions: You earn approximately $100 EVERY TIME you have 50 units on one side and 25 units on the other side of your Dual Team System…..This is 20 TIMES more than Bronze Affiliates earn , 5 TIME MORE than Silver Affiliates earn and 2 TIMES more than what Gold Affiliates earn.

NOTE: The following are the units added into the Dual Team regardless of where they fall in your dual team structure or who directly referred them:

(Bronze package adds 5 units , Silver Package adds 20 units, Gold Package adds 50 units and VIP Package adds 100 units).

Hello Riselle -

Thanks for providing the pricing on the different levels, but there are a couple thousand words of content above but I don't see the answer to the question about the price of the Karatbars alone -  just a lot of explanation about being sure to compare apples to apples, pints to pints and so on, a pretty hefty chunk of marketing and explanation content someone has clearly put some thought into.

What is the price of the 1 gram, the 2.5 gram, and the 5 gram karatbars *today*?

I tried to log in to view pricing on their site as a buyer, but never received the confirmation email. I will try again, but in the meantime, could you please just provide those prices for me?

Just to make the point - when it takes 2700 words to *not* answer the question, it's raises a red flag.

Thanks.

Watchdog, I was able to join the site today and check their spot pricingL

1 gram Classic Gold Card = $61.91 US

2.5 gram Karatbars Card = $137.43 US

5 gram Karatbars Card = $245.06 US

Todays price per OZ of gold $1211.60

Riselle thank you for the information on each membership package.

If I buy the bronze Karatbar package for $135 dollars I get:

Bonus Cards: One 3% Bonus Discount Card and one 100 Euro Bonus Card

Does that mean I get to give someone a 100 euro bonus card that they can use when they buy a KaratBar? And a 3% bonus card they can use for a purchase?

They just get to use that card toward any purchase as an incentive?

Yes that is right on all accounts

Can I use the 100 Euro bonus card for my own purchase of KaratBars?

VIP Package Explained:
Cost: Approximately $2,120 (One Time Fee)
Gold: Three One Gram Gold Classic Cards
Bonus Cards: Ten 3% Bonus Discount Cards and twenty 100 Euro Bonus Cards

I think I'm missing something - if I get twenty 100 Euro bonus cards, that's the equivelent of 2000 Euros? Isn't that like $2524 dollars worth of bonus cards in US currency? I punched that in to Google converting Euro to Dollar with the Euro being 1 to 1.26 dollars.

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The 100 Euros Bonus Cards:  With bonus cards, your affiliates and customers, as well as you, get a discount of 100 euros, redeemable for:  K-Exchange Center products, Branding Cards and for credit towards the VIP package upgrade. They are for your personal use or to give to someone else.  It saves approximately $135 (100 euros x 1.35 = $135).   

The 3% Discount Cards are used to discount the price of gold purchased or other products (not including business packages).  A card is good for 12 months from the time you begin using it.  You can also give these to other people for their use!

Both the 100 Euro Bonus Cards and 3% Discount cards can be used as incentives for others and/or you can use them yourself!

All dollar amounts vary depending on the price of gold and the conversion rate from euros to dollars on any given day!

so to answer you question it is Yes !

Can the 100 Euros Bonus Cards be used to purchase KaratBars, or only other marketing products?

No, they are used only for K-exchange products , branding cards and for credit towards the VIP package upgrade.  The 3% Discount Cards are used to discount the price of gold purchased or other products (not including business packages).

I'm not a fan of this deal, and here is why.

The majority of your purchase in joining does not go to buying gold - it goes to buying "Marketing Materials" - a scam that's been in play going all the way back to Amway. Marketers and the companies would sell pitch tapes ( cassettes ), flyers, brochures, etc to prospects, and they had nothing to do with the products.

These K-Exchange products are the same thing. You give the KaratBars anywhere from 135.00 to thousands of dollars and receive credit toward their marketing materials, that typicall have an eggregious markup.

The 3% discount cards are meaningless - the markup on the gold product is roughly 25 to 30 percent compared on a direct comparison between their 1 gram assayed bar, and the exact same quality .9999 fine gold assay verified one gram gold bar available from APMEX - the PAMP Suisse Lady Fortuna and others.

The hologram is meaningless. The gold either is or isn't pure, and something like an imprint or a hologram means nothing unless you want to keep and collect it because you think it's cool.

The one gram classic gold card from KaratBars International is 61.91.  The same thing from APMEX is 48.63 ( but you could get it as low as 44.08 with a $10,000 buy - less than the max marketing buy in for KaratBars ).

That's not taking into account how much you get burned buying the packages you are required to buy to participate in the commission plan.

Let's look at how absurd the Exclusive VIP Pagage is:

Exclusive VIP Package:
Cost: Approximately $10,172 (One Time Fee)

Karatbars Exclusive VIP Package what's included:
5 - Grams of Gold
20 - 100 Euro Bonus Cards
40 - 100 Euro Digital Bonus Cards
10 - 3% Bonus Discount Cards
15 - 3% Digital Bonus Discount Cards
300 - 5 Euro Bonus Cards which can be used for the following products:

Exclusive Wooden Box
All the T-shirts
Champagne
Special Gold Cards (Happy Birthday, I Love You, etc...)

PLUS: All the digital bonus discount codes will be available on an additional USB memory stick.

Really Truly Explained:
Cost: Approximately $10,172 (One Time Fee)

Gets you FIVE ( 5 ) Grams of Gold.  Not sure if that's one five gram card, or five one gram cards, but either way lets go with the higher priced option and assume those five bars would cost you $48.63 each via APMEX for a total of $243.15.

The rest of that money is just money you are giving to KaratBars so you can promote others to buy into the business like you, and so you can earn a commission on the marketing materials they buy from KaratBars.

Or, you can go to APMEX and get 227 one gram .9999 fine assayed bars for $10006.16 and actually have 227 grams of gold, instead of a garage full of marketing materials and $250 worth of gold for your ten grand.

Of course if you are investing $10,000 you could just buy the 250 gram bar - much more impressive than 227 little credit cards, and more gold obviously, for $9767.22.  And with the extra few hundred bucks you just saved buy yourself the champange and the wooden box KaratBars throws in as part of their "Exlusive VIP Deal"

To get an accurate price comparison for 1-gram Karatbars, you cannot take the spot price for an ounce of gold and divide it by 31.1. (There are roughly 31.1 grams per troy ounce of gold.) And you cannot take a gram price and multiply it by 31.1 to get the price for an ounce of gold.

As with any product, there is what is commonly called volume discounts. The reason bulk prices are less per ounce is very simple: there is more labor cost to produce several units verses one unit, but the flexibility of use benefits are significant with 1-gram gold over larger weights.

I feel that that's your opinion but we have had More RECORD BREAKING GROWTH - 200,000 Affiliates Worldwide and growing

Record Breaking New Client Account Enrollments Worldwide.
Record Breaking Package Sales.
Record Breaking Direct and in-Direct Commissions paid out to Affiliates from FREE TEAM System.
Record Breaking Gold Gram Sales.
Record Breaking Multi - Cycle Days for active Affiliates.
Record Breaking Weekly Residual Income(s) paid out to Affiliates from Dual TEAM System.
Record Breaking Incentives Being Reached.
Record Breaking Affiliates Qualify For The Global GOLD Pool(s).

and the dual team system is just an option it is not required to make money with this business

Although Karatbars prices may be slightly higher than the others, shipping is less, storage is free, resale is higher and Karatbars has a lucrative Affiliate Program.

With Karatbars you are a total Gold Winner in all arenas.

I was making a 100% apples to apples comparison.  1 gram fine .9999 certified gold, todays pricing, to KaratBars, same item, todays pricing. 24% to 30% less through PAMP Suisse.

Exact same thing. Any precious metals vendor will tell you it is apples to apples.

And comparing what you get for 10,000 from Karatbars vs the fact that you could buy a 250 gram bar is a dollar for dollar value comparison.

So if your goal is to buy gold, then I think all my points are valid. If you can find a flaw in there in any of my apples to apples comparisons, or the pricing Im quoting please let me know.

If your interest is in recruiting and earning commissions from the sale of marketing materials, then KaratBars comp plan seems perfectly suited for that.

CONSIDER ALL OF THE FOLLOWING...

Most customers when looking to BUY Gold, ANY gold, usually deal with RETAIL. All they typically see or know to compare is price.

Some retail companies may give them a special discount for a purchase. But it's still retail without other financial rewards. When the deal is done, IT'S ALL DONE.

And without knowing all the features and benefits included in KARATBARS, they may jump to conclusions. They don't know. For many, it may not be that important to them. But for those who want the facts will get them.

WHY? Because they have NEVER been exposed to anything like this before. KARATBARS is a Category-Creator. NO one is doing what Karatbars is doing globally.

So LOGICALLY, without some explanation, someone may ASSUME that Karatbars is in some kind of "BAKE SALE" and simply include it with other "gold" companies. It's LOGICAL...But INVALID.

So, why should one NOT look at only price to make an accurate, informed complete comparison?

Karatbars has the lowest price for their gold category. Compare BMW to BMW, not Ford to BMW. Google: kinebar grade 1 gram gold .

But before we get into all the reasons why owning a 1-gram Karatbar makes far more sense in this economy than owning a 1-ounce bar-even though the same amount of gold may be lower in price-lets compare prices of several 1-gram bars:

POINT #1

KARATBARS are private issue (produced by a private refinery and mint and exclusive to Karatbars) 999.9% 24-carat Gold Bullion... and are not subject to seizure under the current International Bullion Laws and U.S. Law.

Gold coins that have minted and issued from any government can be recalled to issuer (the government). All gold from Karatbars is privately issued and CANNOT be confiscated by any so-called authority. Karatbars gold is Private Issue bullion, 999.9% Fine Gold, each Karatbar weighs in at 1.01 grams.

Transactions are completed offshore, gold is vaulted offshore, and all transaction records belong to Karatbars
Karatbars is an Offshore E-Commerce company with an Affiliate marketing program.
Karatbars does not apply to the FTC (NOT an MLM) or the BBB (Domestic Rating Agency), all are which come under U.S. government jurisdiction, or any other jurisdiction not held under the International Bullion Laws.
Karatbars does not apply to the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC), since gold is not considered a financial instrument. (paper)
Karatbars does not give legal, tax, or investment advice and all Affiliates should not either.
The stamp of the London Bullion Market Association (LBMA) Atasay Refinery on the gold.
The signature of the Atasay Refinery's Assayer on the card.
An serial number embedded in the hologram that is unique to that particular Karatbar.

You want to own 1-gram Karatbars so that your gold does not need to be sold and converted back to paper money in order to get some future use out of them.

BUY-BACK PRICE

With all weights of gold there is a buy-back price that's less than the sell price. With Karatbars there are MANY more options available than simply selling them back.

The Refinery's unique hologram covering the entire back of the gold.
Use them to buy goods and services from the many Merchants who accept them as payment.
Post them in the Karatbars Member Marketplace at or near the Karatbars daily posted retail price.
List them in any of the many Karatbars Affiliate chat rooms to sell at or near the current retail price.

Only Karatbars allows one to find a way to get at or near the current day's retail value when ready to dispose of some.

NO NEED TO USE MORE THAN IS NECESSARY

If you own an ounce of gold, and need only a few hundred dollars, you will need to sell the whole ounce. If you have high inflation, you will want to leave as much as possible in gold. The inconvenience of finding a dealer willing to give you a fair price without having to stand in line etc., is something to consider as well. Karatbars (1-grams) eliminate the need to convert to cash or use more than is required at that time. You cannot chip off a piece from an ounce and expect anyone to give you just that amount in paper cash or goods and services.

THE MASSES CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY IN LARGE AMOUNTS

Karatbars bring gold to the masses. Almost everyone can afford to buy $65 at a time.

EARN FREE GOLD

Anyone, without ANY fees or costs, is able to introduce others to Karatbars and earn a commission. Yes, you can buy 100 grams of gold or an ounce if you choose. But why not, with very little effort, introduce others and have your gold bought with commissions earned?

POINT #3

Karatbars Gold has ALL the bells and whistles on it in its standard feature.

Produced by an LBMA-certified "good delivery" refinery. See http://www.lbma.org.uk/about-us (Click on "Good Delivery” tab / Gold List. Scroll down to Turkey. Click "Atasay..."), Karatbars are good for "settlement of debt" worldwide. Do not take the LBMA-certification lightly: It takes 3 years of zero issues for a refinery to get LBMA-certified. Our Karatbars cannot be counterfeited, and are verifiable by obvious and instant inspection.

Free storage abroad, in various geographic locations.

Low-cost shipping (about $20 for 40 grams) if you want your Karatbars delivered to you. Or you can have them moved to your own vault for an additional fee of approximately 2/10ths of a Euro per gram. Our company subsidizes the portion of the shipping cost that ensures the shipment reaches the Customer's designated destination.

One of the insurance is through SecurLog, as they record on video every single packaging for delivery and the actual card numbers, etc. sealed. And SecurLog has their own private insurance company. SecurLog has their own on-site Insurance. They are recognized by the World Gold Council, one of the largest in the gold industry. Once your Karatbars leave the company's hands, they are double-insured by both Karatbars and SecurLog. They are shipped via FedEx. Large deliveries are done by G4S, the largest global armored delivery company in the world.

The extremely high affiliate marketing internal payout (14.5% on the 100 gram Purchase Plans) allows Karatbars International to prepare for infrastructure labor and expansion. On one-time purchases, payout is 5.5%.

We have "Green Gold: Karatbars Green Technology Extraction Process uses NO mercury or cyanide. This makes them a serious TACTICAL PLAYER for gold production globally.

We are recommended by Bund de Sparer, a German independent consumer watchdog organization:

http://www.bds-deutschland.de/a/index.php/ist-gold-ausverkauft-mainmenu-370

Karatbars are stored in vaults, not in circulation or around circulation like a savings deposit vault of a regular bank. They are NOT held as collateral for something else like a prime funding venture or anything like that. If for some reason you cannot fully trust an offshore account then get your Karatbars delivered directly as a one-time purchase, right now.

Gold deposits are stored in large bars until ready to be minted into card denominations of your choice (0.5 gram, 1 gm, 2.5 gm, and 5 gm ingot cards. Until Karatbars has expanded to every country we can possibly in, we only offer 1-gram ingot cards.

Understand: To exchange into gold is one thing; to exchange out of gold is another. Karatbars is the simple, no-nonsense, worldwide solution to a full-presence answer to both types of exchanges. Karatbars offers a multi-faceted EXIT strategy unlike any other gold source.

Karatbars International will buy back your Karatbars with the guaranteed best buy-back price.

You can sell to other Karatbars Customers or Affiliates. (I sold 19 grams for $1290, that day's sell price, for a Customer who wanted part of his 100 grams sold, and I did it all in 1 day.) Use Karatbars to buy goods and services within the Acceptance Points Network(merchants). Soon, we will be able to exchange fractions of a gram online, not using the cards.

Other major financial institutions see us a reliable financial partner; for example, The Vatican bought and branded 100 kilograms of our gold and branded it with our Karatbars. NO ONE can doubt that the Vatican is a major financial giant worldwide. The Vatican doesn't get involved with hokey companies at all, Period.

We have made many presentations and expect to produce more Affinity Cards like the Pope cards. Football Teams, Hip-Hop artists, several churches, an Airline, and more are considering a private labeled Karatbar for themselves. We are just getting started.

Remember: EARNING FREE GOLD is better than buying it at ANY discount. Sell back to Karatbars at a higher price than you would get from any gold dealer.

"Karatbars has the lowest price for their gold category. Compare BMW to BMW, not Ford to BMW. Google: kinebar grade 1 gram gold "

Riselle, nothing personal, but this is exactly what I did, and I still strongly disagree and could deconstruct the marketing spin even futher.

I specifically compared the PAMP Suisse Kinebar complete with serial number .9999 pure gold gram.  Karatbar price was 24% higher. I compared it too other assayed, verified, serial numbered offerings as well. PAMP Suisse simply had the best price for the exact same thing.

If I take 12 oz of arrowhead drinking water, and relabel it as Dasani it's still 12 oz of water. If the only point your making is that the branding or labelin or hologram make a difference, I completely disagree. .9999 fine gold is exactly the same no matter what shape you make it into, what you stamp into it, what you package it into. At the end of the day it's worth exactly the same unless it's a collectible.  

All the other pricing information I noted, for the marketing materials, the discount cards, etc, are all just that - marketling materials that have no resale value. Once you buy them - whether you use them or give them away - are part of your business expenses. You "earn gold" by selling others the marketing materials.

As far as the Vatican - the only evidence I see of any Vatican involvement is that KaratBars entered a licensing agreement with the Vatican to use their name to market KaratBars.  Nothing anywhere proves or in any way verifies that the Vatican purchased 1KG of gold from KaratBars. If you have proof otherwise, please provide, otherwise all this looks like is paragraph after paragraph of marketing spin.

If I get a licensing agreement with the Boston Red Sox and print a thousand jerseys, that doesn't mean they bought a thousand jerseys from me. It means I'm paying them for the right to use their trademark to sell MY product. Not vice-versa.

Please provide a Vatican press release or some other verifiable proof of this claim. I do hope you understand the difference between licensing to use a trademark and actual purchase of goods or services by the trademark holder.

First of all you are wrong on we "earn gold " off the marketing material .... we earn our money on teaching other to aquire gold for themselves and teach others to do the same ... that's how we make our money and "Earn Free Gold "  ... ( weekly and monthly )

Second you are right about one thing Karatbars international exclusive limited Licensing agreement with the Vatican, allows Karatbars to offer you the first special KaratBars Gram Gold Collector Cards commemorating the Blessed Pope John Paul II (Latin: Ioannes Paulus PP. II, Italian: Giovanni Paolo II, Polish: Jan Pawel II, French: Jean Paul II, German: Johannes Paul II). John Paul II, the second-longest documented pontificate was acclaimed as one of the most influential Catholic leaders of the 20th century.... We have made many presentations and expect to produce more Affinity Cards like the Pope cards. Football Teams, Hip-Hop artists, several churches, an Airline, and more are considering a private labeled Karatbar for themselves. 

But Remember: while you are worried about the price of Karatbars ... EARNING FREE GOLD is better than buying it at ANY discount and that is what Karatbars teaches other to do . Sell back to Karatbars at a higher price than you would get from any gold dealer.

Riselle wrote: "First of all you are wrong on we "earn gold " off the marketing material .... we earn our money on teaching other to aquire gold for themselves and teach others to do the same ... that's how we make our money and "Earn Free Gold "  ... ( weekly and monthly )"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you only earn gold if they buy into the program after being "educated". Right? I mean, you don't get gold just for handing out brochures or discount cards or telling someone about the deal. They need to make a purchase.

For you to earn gold for "educating" these prospects, the prospects must buy into the Karatbars program with one of the marketing packages - Bronze, Silver, Gold and VIP.

The bronze package contains no gold. And the others - the vast majority of the cost is for marketing materials to "educate" other prospects. That's not even up for discussion. You listed the information yourself.

Gold Package Explained:
Cost: Approximately $774 (One Time Fee)
Gold: Two One Gram Gold Classic Cards  *** Value approximately $120 at Karatbars pricing ***
Bonus Cards: Seven 3% Bonus Discount Cards and five 100 Euro Bonus Cards

$654 of what you spend on this Gold package goes toward marketing materials, not gold. That's 84% of your purchase price.  You are in the business of buying and distributing marketing materials, not gold.

I stand 100% by what I said. You earn gold by convincing others to buy these marketing packages, not by selling gold. These Karatbars packages, which are required to earn commissions, are primarily marketing materials you distribute - not that you sell. It's not even like a 50-50 proposition - where you are buying half gold, half marketing materials. This entire "opportunity" is designed to get you to buy those materials to "educate" orthers to buy those materials.

You can call it educating, but the primary commissions and/or gold earned is from the sale and distribution of marketing materials.

If this was a lemonade stand franchise, and 84% of your expenses were incurred in convincing others to buy a franchise, vs buying lemonade, and if it was headquartered in the US, it would be shut down as a ponzi immediately.

If this was a lemonade stand and you spend 84% of your money getting started investing in maretials to entice others to buy a stand, and from 0% ( Bronze membership ) on lemonade, and only earned real commission when other people bought a new lemonade stand, I don't think you would argue that you're not in the lemonade business. You'd be in the "Selling lemonade stands" business.

Riselle wrote: "Other major financial institutions see us a reliable financial partner; for example, The Vatican bought and branded 100 kilograms of our gold and branded it with our Karatbars. NO ONE can doubt that the Vatican is a major financial giant worldwide. The Vatican doesn't get involved with hokey companies at all, Period."

The Vatican never bough 100 kilograms of anything from KaratBars. This is a complete myth and there is no factual information to back it up. Already covered in another post, and other write-ups about this false marketing meme can be found all over the web.

If you have a verifiable bit of info on this, please, do post, I will retract and apologize immediately. But it never happened.

KaratBars is using the Vatican trademark to sell gold, likely with a licensing fee, the Vatican did not buy gold from Karatbars.

This is like saying that because Elvis's face appears on "Bradford Exchange Plates" that Elvis bought a million Bradford Exchange plates with his face on them and that he put his trust in "Bradford Exchange". It's a marketing gimmick to sell plates.

This KaratBars - Vatican hocum is one of the most absurd marketing memes I've ever heard.

They also have a Mercedes Benz branded karatbars card, among otherse. Did Mercedez Benz buy a kilogram too? Nah, because that meme doesn't sound as holy and compelling as claiming it was the Vatican.

The marketing material (bronze ,Silver, gold, and VIP) are an OPTION but not REQUIRED  to make money with this business the businesss is based on gold purchases not market maraterial ! You can stand by your statement all you want but the fact is that money is made off buying gold not marketing materials.... Karatbars does not require you purchase anything but the point of joining is to get gold so it is highly recommended that purchase gold. Preserve your wealth. Save with more gold and less fiat money because gold is inflation-proof and can never go bankrupt. It is the only asset that has proven the test of time.  I will say one thing then I am done.... I am making money with Karatbars (weekly and monthly ) and I have helped others make money with Karatbars CHANGING THEIR LIVES and that is all the proof I need !

With all due respect, I have two straightforward questions:

1. How much commission is earned on the sale of one ( 1 ) Karatbar ( just as an example ). Looking for a specific answer either in dollars, or percent of purchase price.

2. Is there a requirement to purchase a package ( Bronze, Silver, Gold or VIP ) in order to earn a commission on gold ( and other ) sales?

If I am misunderstanding the business model, your straightforward answer to those specific questions should set me straight.

Thanks.

Any KaratBars reps who can answer the two questions posted above? Anyone?

The commissions are diffrent ... if you are only refering people to karatbars you get between 0.5-6% of  all purshased products of your organization. So that also answer the second question you do not have to purshase anything to earn commissions.

If you purshase any of the package you will earn more because then you also get commission from your downlines organization.

as free affiliate you earn only in your own organization.