I seem to remember David Schmidt over at the LifeWave patches SCAM was keen to be seen "doing good" by donating patches.

A totally transparent move for those willing to see.

In a recent article in the Houston Chronicle, Cie Aura chips were discussed in a controversial debate over whether the company's pain control, sleep aid, and energy boost chips actually work. Company representatives and medical consultants state unequivocally that the chips do everything they claim to do and more. That patients and friends alike who have tried them, some skeptical, have experienced relief from using the chips for both pain control, and for sleep aid.

Opponents from various online mediums, as well as a doctor from Baylor College of Medicine's immunology department cite the chips as nothing more than a sticker placed on a piece of plastic, and any benefit is coming from a placebo effect.

When questioned by the Chronicle as to any FDA involvement, officials stated that they had no knowledge of any complaints being made thus far, but would check to be sure.

The manufacturer states that Cie Aura chips are made using a proprietary process involving vibrations and energy. The chips are then coded with this energetic readout in the form of a hologram which the body understands intrinsically. Rudy Tomjanovich has become a Youtube.com spokesperson for Cie Aura, and is passing out the chips to friends and family for free.

The company also has plans to donate some of the chips to the children of Haiti to alleviate pain.

Check out the Cieaura scam page on facebook and add your comments and other insightful discussion.

Hey Edhuk,

Someone should start a cieaura scam fanclub on Facebook, since cieaura is really trying to capitalize it's marketing on Facebook. I think we would really be able to get the truth out there about this ridiculous product. 

CieAura is headed up by ex LifeWave management Ken Rasner.  Ken decided to take the LifeWave patches SCAM to a new level with the holographic discs.

Ex management Warren Hanchey has done the same thing with his 8ight company.

Does anyone remember the fuel discs scam? Holographic discs once again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkCEiTzTwcg

The Australians are much better at keeping tabs on these scams.

Check out the latest Power Balance SCAM. Shaq has really done a number on himself. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6XJR9g9Acg

Australian TV exposes the scam here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0Gb9EgkHA

The authorities in the USA appear to be ignoring these scams much to the delight of David Schmidt, Hanchey, Rasner and a whole host of wannabe millionaires.

Thanks for keeping such close tabs on this Jim, I've been doing a bit of research on it and I'm torn somewhere between feeling that its a scam, or possibly an overzealous company that's trying to market something they aren't quite "set up" for yet. So far, I am feeling a bit skeptical, but we'll see soon enough.

CieAura Agent 1: Thank you for contacting the CieAura Support Team, how can I help you today?

JT: Can you tell me if there is any way to tell a live chip from a used chip?

CieAura Agent 1: The customer will not be able to tell live chip from used chip.

CieAura Agent 1: We recommend keeping the chips within the envelope in a safe place before using.

JT: Can the company tell a live chip from a used chip? Is there any device to measure if its still good?

CieAura Agent 1: Yes, our developer use special machines to ensure the chips are live before they are shipped out.

JT: what kind of special machines? what is actually detectable about the live chip?

CieAura Agent 1: This information is not available to customers and retailers.

JT: really? why?

CieAura Agent 1: We do not have this information

JT: is there any information on the science behind the embedding process?

JT: is the patent app available?

CieAura Agent 1: the scientific information on the chips is posted in the Products/Science section of the CieAura home page

JT: if i send a batch back to the office can they test them and determine if they have been used?

CieAura Agent 1: There are no bad batches; based upon the manufacturing methods it is not possible. In addition there are outstanding and strong quality control checks and balances.

JT: that wasnt my question. If I sent in a batch, would the company be able to determine if they were used or unused?

CieAura Agent 1: We will forward that request to our supervisor, they will reply shortly to your email address.

JT: where is the physical headquarters for the company? the actual office address?

CieAura Agent 1: This is listed on the CieAura website under Company

CieAura Agent 1:  450 N. Brand Blvd, Glendale, CA

CieAura Agent 1: Our shipping headquarters is in 3610 Old Atlanta Road Suwanee, GA

CieAura Agent 1: Is there anything else I can help you with today?

JT: who would I contact about a request for a live double blind product test?

CieAura Agent 1: you can email that request to retailersupport@cieaura.com

CieAura update!

Hey it looks like ken has disabled his www.harmonic fm site.  I wonder if if he plans on putting up some more realistic photos of someone elses laboratory since his own technology doesn't exist. I'm confident cieaura will never respond to your question about how to detect a live chip from a used chip. I thank you all for exposing CieAura.

Yes it's  SCAM!

Ex LifeWaver Ken Rasner trying to make more money than he could in LifeWave SCAM.

Do you remember the Smogbuster discs?

wow, the information posted here on Repspace about CieAura is astounding.  Their product sounds like it is as useful as the mood ring, or pet rock...

How do people come up with this stuff and how do they figure your average person isn't going to immediately believe it is a scam.  I try very hard to keep an open mind too but sometimes it's extremely difficult.

I generally consider myself to be an open minded individual, and I would certainly make any attempt at trying to give anything like this a fair chance; however, I am very troubled by excerpts such as this;

"Our Holographic Chips use a combination of tones, colors, signs, symbols and essences or aroma that when placed along sensitive acupuncture meridian points, affect positive health responses.".

I have no problem envisioning a future in which science uses things like vibration, sound, or any other manipulation of the human body or it's magnetic field, as that may very well be the kinds of things we see in the next century. What I find a deal breaker for me in terms of taking this company seriously is when it claims that "signs", "symbols", or colors are even incorporated into the product at all.

What I feel at this point is that a company is using technical jargon to sell me what amounts to"magical" patches, and I just don't feel with what we have been provided; it deserves much credibility.

I am completely skeptical about this company and their claims.

I would like to do a double blind test with a new patch and a 'used' patch which in theory would no longer be effective.

But even simpler would be to have the company simply show some technique for measuring that a chip is active or used.

I made this request via the CieAura chat server, because I was unable to reach anyone at their office after repeated attemps. ( It goes to a voicemail system every time ).

My Simple Challenge to CieAura

Send me two batches of chips. I will pay for them. I will use 1 batch. The other will be applied but immediately removed. According to the documentation on the CieAura site "The activation does not start a "timer" -- the chips only deplete based upon continuous exposure to the human body’s own energy field."

According to the service rep via chat, the company has special machines to detect  chips are live.

JT: Can the company tell a live chip from a used chip? Is there any device to measure if its still good?
CieAura Agent 1: Yes, our developer use special machines to ensure the chips are live before they are shipped out.
JT: what kind of special machines? what is actually detectable about the live chip?
CieAura Agent 1: This information is not available to customers and retailers

Based on this, they should have no trouble correctly identifying the used/depleted chips from the live chips.

I don't personally believe it can be done, because I don't believe there is anything in the chip that is depleted by contact with the human body's electrical field. 

They promised me that a supervisor would get back to me about reuqesting a test. 

Does anyone have access to the patent application to review the vibratec 'science' behind the chip?

My email to CieAura:

From:	JT
Sent:	Wed 1/13/10 8:42 PM
To:	retailersupport@cieaura.com

Who do I contact to arrange an interview and double blind product test, or to have the company demonstrate the ability to identify a 'live' chip from a completely 'used' chip?