I'm sorry you feel that way, but I know Michael Dloughy; he is one of my mentors.  He is also one of the top trainers in the business.

no matter how many sucker celebrities/athletes they get to endorse this crap, it's still a scam:

http://www2.wspa.com/business/2010/oct/23/10/cprime-does-it-work-ar-992930/

I like the idea of doing the different bands. I also am a distributor and I always encourage people to do the tests without wearing cPRIME before putting it on and once again after taking it off. That way they can't say it was just because they were streched out or "ready" the second time.

Some people are just more flexible than others, and so the flexibility aspect might not affect them as much. Others who have great cardio might not benefit as much from the endurace. So saying "my yield" certainly is accurate. It does affect different people to different degrees. cPRIME also tries to produce slick-looking products that people will want to wear not just when they are working out. There is a new band without a magnetic clasp scheduled to release in December. Dwight Howard wears these when he plays.

More info can me found on my site at www.ThePerformanceBands.com.

Here's one of the test i've done.  I grabbed a random gym member and asked if they were willing to participate in a test.  I lined up 5 bands, cPRIME, Power Balance, Trion-Z, Phiten, and i-renew and told the member I was going to test out which band had the best results.  This member has not heard of any of these products so they didn't know what to expect.  One by one I performed my test, balance, and strength test, I omitted the flexibility test because we were doing the test so many times their muscles could be stretched out by the time I got to the last band.  The cPRIME was the only band that performed extremely well.  I've done this test to numerous members of the gym and always same results.

Here's another test that would not allow me or the test subject to see who had the cPRIME band.  3 plastic cups behind a barrier, one cup has the cPRIME wrapped around it with water in the cup.  I pulled 3 members, had a 4th give each member a cup of water (after removing the band) and I tested one by one.  The results were amazing, the person who drank the water with the cPRIME band performed extremely well with the test, the other two failed.  This test showed two things, 1) cPRIME actually charges the water thus producing same results as if you are wearing it.  Only thing is the effect wears out after 2-3 mins.  2) Because nobody knew who drank the water with the band around it (besides the person who served the water) their was no predetermined bias.

We also did that same test were none of the cups had a cPRIME band on it, that way if the first 2 people failed the test, the third might think he had it.  That test proved that no band equals no results.

Please feel free to check out my site from time to time, I will be having videos of my experiments and all the tests i've done.

www.cprimebandsonline.com

Can you describe the cPrime Placebo Tests you conducted?

Did you perform the tests yourself, and were you aware of whether the client or member was in contact with a real cPrime bracelet or a placebo product?

To all the doubters of cPRIME, if you live around the Washington DC area and want me to prove to you that cPRIME is real contact me. As a personal trainer, I've done numerous placebo tests on cPRIME on my clients and members of the gym. The results are strong enough that it proves cPRIME works. So I challenge anyone around the area to come see me and I will put you through all sorts of test and you will see. Contact me through my website www.cprimebandsonline.com and see for yourself.

Hi Abbey, I would never EVER give my Social Security number to anyone other than a bank or hospital. In this case, I can't see why it is important in the process of becoming a member of Bellamora. I see no particular warning signs yet, but in the future I would definitely avoid any companies asking for information that they aren't privy to.

I would suggest contacting the company about your order for starters, and then if you feel the customer service was adequate, and you feel good about the interaction, hold put and perhaps they will straighten the situation out. If you don't feel secure, simply call the bank and ask for some extra tight security protocols in addition to trying to cancel or get your transaction reversed. Banks are all different so it depends on your options.

In any event, please keep us posted on the outcome.

I signed up for the Bellamora free samples.

I have not received them yet.

I feel like it was very strange that the form asked for my social security number even though everything was FREE.

Should I be concerned about identity theft?

Has anyone gotten back any free samples from Bellamora?

News 7 did an independent placebo test via two Universities. One to test the results, the other to examine the bracelet.

http://www2.wspa.com/news/2010/oct/28/cprime-challenged-28079-vi-56097/

They found no difference in the placebo tests.  In fact the only result that showed a change ( in stretching ) was when the subject was wearing the placebo bracelet. The is a raw video feed of Josh Higgenbotham giving a rambling interview and trying to explain away the lack of results. He hit every talking point on the 'lame excuse' checklist.

1) That he doesn't know how the tests were done ( even though they were explained to him )

2) That the product may have come in contact with it and magically 'charged' it. ( In which case, why buy one, when I can just charge up a bunch of say...Live Strong bands ... and give them away.

3) That six people is not enough for a 'test'. ( Ironic, since they think that doing the test one on one is perfect ).

4) That every time he has done the test on someone, there has been a result ( Of course there is Josh, you have an expectation of results when you give the test ).

If you watch the videos of the testing, they were done scientifically with machines to measure everything from reach to strength.

This is the first independent university test I've seen, hopefully there will be more, but no matter how many there are, count on the fact that cPrime and Higginbotham will always have an excuse why the independent studies are flawed.

What elevates this guy to the level of "Snake Oil Salesman" ( in my opinion ) is that he continues to pretend this piece of plastic has an actual non-placebo effect on the human body.  He even says he doesn't know how a 'laser' somehow influences the piece of aluminum in the bracelet to give the results they claim. Because the pending 'patent' is sealed.

Total F for cPrime and this bracelet scam.

As expected, total failure in all the placebo tests.

News 7 in the Carolinas is running a cPrime Challenge special on Thursday. They had a University scientist test it, and experts open it an examine it:

Thursday at 6 p.m. on News Channel 7, Diane Lee takes the cPRIME performance bracelet to a Furman University scientist to see if it really works.

Experts at Clemson crack it open to test the technology.

http://www2.wspa.com/business/2010/oct/23/cprime-does-it-work-ar-992930/#comments

Can't wait to see their results.

I have called Nuverus offices multiple times. No one answers and no one returns calls.

Is Nuverus a scam? 

Any active distributors?

Are they shipping euforia?

How does a company run without any people to answer their phone.

Dr. Mike Debord:

"Dr." Mike Debord has an interesting history. I put quotations around the "Dr." title because he forfeited his chiropractic license in 2001. 

 Source: Ohio License Center - https://license.ohio.gov/Lookup/SearchDetail.asp?ContactIdnt=3472400&DivisionIdnt=90&Type=L )

I enjoy dissecting corporate bios so here's a snippet from Mike DeBord's Nuverus Bio:

"He completed his Doctorate from Palmer College of Chiropractic in Davenport Iowa.  Dr. DeBord graduated Cum Laude with honors.  He was a successful physician for 10 years.  His practice was one of the largest and most successful in Ohio. "

Fact Check: It's difficult to determine how successful his practice was. But it seems that he was running a practice for some time without a license, and that at least one chiropractor working at his practice was fined for practicing at Michael P. DeBord's unlicensed factility:

Joseph T. Ewing, D.C.

License No. 1695 Case No. 2004 CHR 002

Date of Action: May 20, 2004

Violated Codes and/or Rules: Ohio Revised Code § 4734.31 (C)(9) & (11)

Dr. Ewing admitted that he had been continuously employed by Spinal Injury & Rehab Center, Inc. since April 1, 2003, a for-profit corporation whose president is Michael P. DeBord, D.C. Dr. DeBord’s license to practice chiropractic in the state of Ohio became inactive January 1, 2002. Since January 1, 2002, Dr. Ewing admitted that he contributed to assisting Dr. DeBord in violating Ohio Revised Code § 4734.10 (A)(2). At all times since January 1, 2002, Dr. Ewing was aware of Dr. DeBord’s inactive license status and failed to disassociate himself with Dr. DeBord.

Dr. Ewing’s license to practice chiropractic in the state of Ohio was placed on probation for a period of 4 months and he agreed to pay a civil fine in the amount of $2,000. Dr. Ewing agreed to various other stipulations and conditions as outlined in the Consent Agreement that he entered into with the Board.

Source:  Ohio State Chiropractic Board Annual Report

That doesn’t sound very “Successful”.

The only other noteworthy issue with Michael P. Debord is a rather significant felony charge in Dayton, Ohio in 2005. For intimidating a public servant, retaliation, and tampering with evidence. Bail was set at $75,000.  

Source: Dayton Municipal Court http://www.daytonwejis.com/

Assuming this is the same Michael P. DeBord of Dayton, Ohio as is referenced in all these bios, this is rather noteworthy.

After his Chiropractic career, Mike DeBord’s bio states that he started a company called Extreme Rewards, that later merged into Nuverus. 

There is some fuzzy overlapping info about his network marketing management experience with Extreme Research and EnviroMax Plus, and EnviroFuelPlus. His Bio for EnviroFuelPlus states:

"Dr. DeBord is widely recognized as the leader in Internet & Direct Sales as well as Internet technology as it applies to the Network Marketing industry and the direct sales industry. Dr Mike now serves as the VP of Extreme Research, and VP of EnviroFuel Plus, Inc."

Widely recognized by whom? I personally don’t see much that would recommend him as a successful executive. It doesn’t seem that EnviroMax plus was a huge market success. Payment is only available via paypal,  and EnviroMax Plus contact info does not include a business address, but it does have a phone number and an email address…that goes to Dr Mike at NuVerus.com.

This colorful background is pretty common for executives that seem to have a long string of companies ( named or unnamed ) in their corporate bios.

Mark Seyforth:

Mark Seyforth has also had a long and colorful network marketing history. At this time, he seems to be the founder of One 24, but as recently as September of 2009, he was listed as part of the Nuverus Presidential Advisory Board, along with Dr. Mike DeBord.

More to follow...

I'm researching Nuverus and trying to find info on Mike DeBord ( Dr. Mike Debord, Dr. Micheal Debord ) and Mark Seyforth.

I'm finding old information relating to a company called EnviroMax that sold fuel additives with executives named Mike DeBord and Mark Seyforth. I'm assuming these are the same people.

Mike DeBords information on the Nuverus site says he is a doctor aka chiropractor.

Any information will be helpful.

-Devon

Yes you would be able to tell the difference right away when performing the test. The bag can't be too thick, thin cloth or even wrapping it in a paper napkin will work.  About the water, as long as the bottle has the cPRIME wrapped around it it'll work when you drink the water.  It takes about 10 mins to charge a half bottle of water or one of those thin plastic cups.  The charge only last for about 2 mins after you drink the water, you can peform all the test you want within that 2 min range.  If you want to charge the water, just leave the band on until it's time to drink the water then take the band off.

I hope this answers some of your questions

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cPRIME does not work in proximity but it works if you put it in your pockets, and it works if you charge water.  I can tell 100% of the time, if you doubt me, make a trip to Washington DC and contact me, we can do this test all day long to random people.

So it would be reasonable to assume that if you had a cPrime band in a small cloth bag, and a placebo band in a small bag as well, that if one was placed in your pocket you would be able to tell the difference?

Regarding the charged water - how long does it take to charge the water, and how long does the charge last? Can you charge a bottle and then keep it in the refridgerator and get the same effect when you drink it later?

cPRIME does not work in proximity but it works if you put it in your pockets, and it works if you charge water.  I can tell 100% of the time, if you doubt me, make a trip to Washington DC and contact me, we can do this test all day long to random people.

Has anyone observed a true cPrime placebo test? One where neither the cPrime tester nor the cPrime testee have any idea which bracelet is real and which is fake?

This user mentions conducting placebo tests, I'd like to see and hear more.

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To all the doubters of cPRIME, if you live around the Washington DC area and want me to prove to you that cPRIME is real contact me. As a personal trainer, I've done numerous placebo tests on cPRIME on my clients and members of the gym. The results are strong enough that it proves cPRIME works. So I challenge anyone around the area to come see me and I will put you through all sorts of test and you will see. Contact me through my website www.cprimebandsonline.com and see for yourself.

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I am still 100% skeptical about this product and believe the 'test' results is completely manipulated by the tester using applied kinesiology.

Can anyone claim that they can tell if it's a cPrime band or a fake band if both are concealed in idential bags or boxes?  If legit, they should be able to tell 100% of the time.

Does cPrime claim that the band works in proximity, or does it have to be in direct contact with the skin?

How anyone can believe that an Ex-Musician and a Realtor can discover a Scientific Breakthrough of this magnitude, using a small room in a real estate office is beyond me.

Please see my videos for more info:

http://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorHoffenkoff

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no comment on higgenbotham. 

i'm not sure why they're so secretive, but if i had to guess i'd say it's because the ftc, if it finds anything wrong, will go after the top individuals as well as the company. 

i also know for a fact that the leadership has read that post.  i believe they continue to check up on it every so often too.  if you want to say something to them, leave a comment on the blog itself. 

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yeah, they're all very secretive.  i know for a fact the top dogs are steven maroulis, hal bibee, and denton jones.  someone calling themselves, "ceo" put a comment on my blog, but wouldn't leave a real name or email address.  i also know three of the top distributors' names, but i hesitate to call them out here.

I read your blog. It's hilarous and on point.

I can not find any info on "DENTON JONES" anywhere on the Internet.

Is one of the top distributors Josh Higgenbotham?

Any idea why there is so much secrecy surround the "executive" team?

yeah, they're all very secretive.  i know for a fact the top dogs are steven maroulis, hal bibee, and denton jones.  someone calling themselves, "ceo" put a comment on my blog, but wouldn't leave a real name or email address.  i also know three of the top distributors' names, but i hesitate to call them out here.

The distributor agreement doesn't even include the business address.

There is no way to contact the company on the cPRIMEUSA website.

Smells fishy.

Zero chance. But then again, who knows, because cPRIME doesn't make their address or phone number easily available on their website or in any of the normal places one might find it.  The girl answering identified the location as the cPRIME headquarters in Utah, and said that their distribution center is in Utah.

The phone is answered during off hours with "Thank you for calling the offices of cPrime USA" etc. If you have an alternate number, please provide it.

Not sure where you are getting your facts, but the thrust of my post wasn't tha cPRIME was not 'answering their phone'. They did answer their phone. The main point is that it's very sketchy that the girl answering didn't know the name of the CEO.

Also, just as weird, for a company that as you say "poured millions into brand creation, software etc" doesn't list the names of their executive on their website. ( www.cprimeusa.com ) 

Can you explain that? Why would the founders and executives be so slippery on this deal?

Do YOU know their names?

Also, there's no address information listed on their website. No corporate address. If cPRIME "poured millions into brand creation, software etc" why would they also not include their corporate address on their site?

Can you name any legitimate MLM companies that have stood the test of time that do not provide info on their executives and do not provide an address and phone number? Do you have the corporate address?