Typical program that works for the person that launches it, in this case Dlouhy, and they make as much or more money as they do from their MLM.  In this case everyone in this deal is in or ends up in vitamark.  The mentoring for free thing is in fact not free,  just like the rest of the non-duplicating systems being promoted as the answer to everyones problems in MLM, there is a place for a credit card when you get right down to it.  The worst thing about this program is that they bash all the other companies as not being as good as vitamark and make the company the reason people fail.  This is wrong for two reasons, number one Vitamark is not that great, they are a tiny company that has been around longer than monavie, agel and some of the other newer companies, but are a lot smaller and number two people blame the past company for failure when they failed because they didn't do the work or learn how to build the business correctly in the first place.  Dlouhy won't show them how to build the right way even though Big Al is the owner of Vitamark and teaches people what they need to learn, dlouhy just screws people up, Big al must be sick to his stomach.   Dlouhy is just a little fish in a little pond, that's why people think he's a big deal, but he's just a minnow.

From what I've seen, I can't say that Mentoring For Free is any more a scam than any other MLM company. I do find that the title of the package as a whole really isn't very accurate, but in any area of standard or MLM business other than profit figures; what is? The meatiest parts of the program are obviously not free with a "Pro-version" (Probably the part that works heh) coming at a cost of $19.95 a month. This consists of capture pages, a few of which promote the free ebook "Success in 10 Steps" and another for $29.95. There is also a CD called Color to Success which rolls in for $19.95. This entire selection of items more or less contain the Mentoring For Free program in its entirety, and the price overall sort of discredits the name. The "free" part of these types of programs are simply hooks that's all.

Now I have to be fair and say that it doesn't mean the system doesn't work, nor does it mean that Michael Dloughty isn't a stand up guy. I couldn't tell you that one way or the other I've never met him, nor am I involved with any of his business ventures. I will say that I haven't found very much online as far as negative press in regard to him, or this particular product. If the information in this program is good, well excellent, that's great, but don't think for a second that there isn't a design behind the title, what you actually get for free, and the more vital info only being available in the stuff you pay for.

If you would like to know the "Real Truth" about Michael Dloughy and Mentoring For Free, I can tell you that he is for real. He is one of my mentors. He is one of the top trainers in the business and his mentor is also one of the best, Tom "Big Al" Schreiter.  The training is free and is open to anyone no matter what company you work with. There is no deception involved. Join and see for yourself.

I guess I don't really have an opinion on the subject as a whole.  I did recognize the name and realized that I do get mailing from Mentoringforfree in one of my junk email boxes.

I've enjoyed the mailings and I think the reason I didnt take any action on it other than reading the emails is because Im not looking for buy anyone elses mentoring.

It seems that is a tricky part of our business and some of the people that are drawn to it.  As best as I can tell, all the free training and information anyone could need is out there and some people are looking for someone that will do it for them and not just mentoring.

I've always enjoyed meeting people in the our direct sales business and have made some good friendships.  I like people that are self-starters and marketers at heart.  After all, we are in multi level MARKETING.  So I consider myself to be a marketer.

Then there are those that join our industry that are looking for someone to show them what to do and then do it for them.  I don't worry about those people to much since I know that they won't be around by the time the next event rolls around.

So, he can send me the emails but Im not buying.

Hi Abbey,

I can certainly understand your hesitation, but no worries.  Like you I requested my free samples, however I did receive them, but they were damaged in the mail.  I contacted the corporate office and they sent them again and this time I received them in tact.  Liked them so much I purchased some more to share with friends.

You might have missed the post on the free sample page that you did not need to input your SSN, but rather you could use a bogus series of numbers just so they would have a way to reference you in the system.  Inputting SSN only comes into play once you have decided to become a Distributor and that is necessary so they can pay you.

Hope this helps!

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Here's one of the test i've done.  I grabbed a random gym member and asked if they were willing to participate in a test.  I lined up 5 bands, cPRIME, Power Balance, Trion-Z, Phiten, and i-renew and told the member I was going to test out which band had the best results.  This member has not heard of any of these products so they didn't know what to expect.  One by one I performed my test, balance, and strength test, I omitted the flexibility test because we were doing the test so many times their muscles could be stretched out by the time I got to the last band.  The cPRIME was the only band that performed extremely well.  I've done this test to numerous members of the gym and always same results.

Here's the problem...you are the one doing the tests. You have an expectation of results. You can go online and do a search and see that when a tester has any expectation of results, it ALWAYS skews the results to some degree.

How about this test - put each of the bands in a clean sock or identical jewelry bags or sunglass bags. cPrime claims their bracelet works through clothing ( so do all the others, for that matter ). Even better, have someone else put the cprime bracelet in one bag, and a simple Livestrong bracelet in each of the others. Keep all of the bracelets apart so there is none of the 'carry over effect' that Higgenbothom claimed when the cPrime bracelet failed a very similar double blind university test.

Have five subjects each select a sock. Have them bench their max. Then have someone else select a sock and set it on each of their chests and see if their max bench lift goes up.

Open the bags to see which contains which. It's not going to make a difference. If you put a Livestrong bracelet on one of the lifters and tell them it's embedded with Quantum Resonance Nano Muscle Enhancement waves, the impressionable lifters will get a better result. It's all placebo.

Really you're in Dallas TX. I'm a powerlifter that lives in Plano. There are people in the area gyms that have been hawking these bracelets,  holographic chips, etc. I've tried a few and NONE of them work. Far as I'm concerned, cPrime is probably just another scam. And trust me, I look for every advantage there is as I compete in powerlifting contests 6-7 times a yr. But hey I'm open minded. Wouldn't mind trying one in a REAL test.....say on the bench press? You bring me one to try and if I can lift 5 more lbs or do even one more rep, then I'd agree that it works and would say so on this forum. Until then I say these are just another ripoff.

Aside from the completely incoherent nature of your post, I found the video you attached of someone with a hilarious redneck accent comparing the way a cell phone works to the way the cPrime bracelet works for a rapt audience of football players to be utterly entertaining.

Your video ( and slapped together post ) don't address the one critical piece of information about the cPrime bracelet: It doesn't broadcast anything.

It also failed completely when double-blind tested under lab conditions. ( http://repspace.com/forums/p/2234/3061.aspx#3061 )

The bottom line is this is 100% placebo effect. The product can not pass any true double blind test.  There is no measurable 'frequency' or any other signal being broadcast from the bracelet. If there was, it would be detectable by some measuring device other than lame applied kinesiology tests performed by shysters in the know.

If you can produce one test that produces measurable results via a scientific device, or done under lab conditions that can be easily replicated, rather than based on a sales clown doing the test, I'll buy a case of these and donate them to your favorite charity. 

Watchdog, your original post has got to be one of the funniest and truthful things I have ever read here. I concur with those who say its a hoax. Snake oil has been with us since the beginning of time, and it comes to us in many forms ranging from stage acts, psychic hotlines, dead whisperers and channelers. There is no better tool to coerce another human being than their own mind. There are bits of fine print in all of these kinds of posts that expose the kind of reasoning behind the product. I am most concerned over statements like this, in a society that claims to value empirical science and common sense.

"So your question is what is the technology? Truth is there is no clear explanation on what's in the chip"

Wow, how comforting lol

"there's really no need in understanding the technology."

I beg to differ sir. You are asking me and others to put this device on our bodies that you claim will affect us at a molecular level, and then say there is no need to understand how it works? That is to say nothing of how it makes you and others like you appear to have so much invested, so much faith behind a product you know virtually nothing about.......seriously.

"if the demonstrations are done right"

Yes indeed, if the faith healer finds the right people.

To those of you who are advocating this, I would suggest using your talents at demonstration and marketing for selling something the world could actually benefit from.

[quote user="DavidInTN"]They are conducting a 100 person, controlled, double blind test... they are humble about the pending results... we shall see. [/quote]

I'm very interested in hearing the results. It doesn't explain why the bracelet failed the independent university tests, and the only way the 100 person double blind test will be valid is if it is conducted by an established independent research facility.

I've been around MLM for quite a while. I've seen tests published that are intended to prove product claims, but turn out were conducted by 'accredited facilities' that didn't exist prior to the tests. I'm hoping this isn't going to be the case.

Does cPrime sell the placebo version of the bracelet so that someone like myself could do their own double blind tests?

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4.  Regarding the patent, I have since done my own research, and found that a patent pending, does not have to disclose any information, even if there is an application.  That's been my understanding, which does make sense, from an under the radar type of marketing approach. 

David,

I definitely enjoy your responses.

I have to disagree with you on this point, and then point you to the documentation which supports my opinion that there is a patent issue.

A "provisional' patent provides protection for 12 months for a person or business planning on filing a "non-provisional" patent, i.e. a full patent application.

There is no requirement to disclose any information about a provisional patent. The applicant can keep the entire matter top secret, and that definitely makes sense if you are trying to prepare a full patent application for something truly groundbreaking.

Filing a provisional patent also gives the person or entity the *legal right* to use the term "Patent Pending". You may not claim "Patent Pending" if there is no provisional application.

Within the 12 month period, you must file a non-provisional patent application which is a matter of *public record*.

cPrime has been using the term "Patent Pending" for over 12 months. No non-provisional application has been filed. cPrime will not discuss in any way even the *existence* of the provisional patent, will not even confirm it has been filed, yet they continue to use the term "Patent Pending" everywhere.

It's the absence of a full application and the time that has elapsed that makes me 100% confident that no such patent application exists.

From: http://www.uspto.gov/patents/resources/types/provapp.jsp

Applicants are entitled to claim the benefit of a provisional application in a corresponding non-provisional application filed not later than 12 months after the provisional application filing date.

"A provisional application for patent is a U. S. national application for patent filed in the USPTO under 35 U.S.C. § 111(b) . It allows filing without a formal patent claim, oath or declaration, or any information disclosure (prior art) statement. It provides the means to establish an early effective filing date in a later-filed non-provisional patent application filed under 35 U.S.C. § 111(a) . It also allows the term "Patent Pending" to be applied in connection with the description of the invention."

This leads to a whole 'nother can of worms. Let's say a guy goes into a bar and says "Hey baby, want to go for a ride in my Ferrari?" and the girl says "Sure", and they get outside and the "Ferrari" is really a 1978 AMC Pacer ( aka the fishbowl ). The guy is definitely a creep, but he hasn't committed fraud because there's no money changing hands.

When cPrime says "Patent Pending" everywhere it is a product claim used to entice people to buy and to substantiate their claim that there is a benefit from the product.  There are legal issues not only with the USPTO but also with consumer regulatory agencies. The creepy guy can say, "Hey, I'm not going to talk about my car" and the girl can choose not to get in, and that's the end of the story. The cPrime consumer can say "Hey, WTF?" And submit complaints to the FTC, Attorney Generals' Offices, and even the USPTO. If cPrime is making the Patent Pending claim when no application exists, it is definitely fraud.

If the AG calls cPrime corporate, the "We can't discuss the patent" just isn't going to fly. Even if they file a provisional patent TODAY, there's still the issue of the running clock - either they were using the term Patent Pending prior to filing the provisional patent, or they *did* file a provisional patent over 12 months ago and have not filed the full application.

Again, the full application is a matter of public record and can be obtained from the USPTO.

Because you might take me up on this... please know, while this would be serious, and documented it would not be done in a combative, threatening spirit on my part, it would be done in a serious, friendly and humble spirit.

I don't want to frighten you away... :-)

David

I'm re-thinking... lol... you pick out 2 strangers in the mall... I'll pay them each $100 to do the test.  I guess if you really wanted to botch the test you could... but, 2 strangers YOU pick out... its highly unlikely... and you can question them to the NINTH degree after the test... this will all be unrehearsed and impromptu...no room for manipulation. 

Of course, it may not come to this, as I'll offer you a test as soon as you get off the airplane... that will put a scare into you... or maybe it won't... but, I'll let you gracefully bow out of the mall test, and sit you down and tell you in great, lengthy detail... all about our product and program!

Deal?

:-)

David

I respect your thoughtful response.  You are an intelligent person, as I think of myself (sometimes). 

Last night, my son, tried to fool me... he acted like he took off the bracelet, but instead put it in his pocket.  I had no idea the bracelet was in his pocket.  We did the typical testing, and the results were as though he had the bracelet on... in fact, he did.

If for no other reason... but for your own entertainment... get the bracelet... try it, test it... IF you don't want it they will send you back your money... I don't know anyone who has... but, you certainly have that right.

My best friend of 25 years, who has been in business with me 20 of those years... though he trusts me implicitly cannot wrap his mind around this, and he won't take the opportunities I've offered him. 

I don't take offense.

But, from experience I'll tell you, its IMPOSSIBLE to judge this product objectively without your own personal experience.

In fact, I'm so confident it will work... I will pay for a flight to my home town, furthermore, I'll put $500.00 on the line, right here on this public posting, that if this does not work on you, you will go home and post your story for all to see, and you will have $500 in your pocket.   We will chronicle this entire venture on my flip video.

It my experience, it is impossible, yes impossible to fake the test, to a stranger, because the test is conducted by BOTH parties.   The person giving the test can tell, more than the person receiving the test.  Because the person giving the test KNOWS how much pressure they are putting on the person.     It's one thing if I give you the test, its another thing, if we go to a mall together, you point out a stranger, I'll offer them $100 to do a test right there on the spot... they will accept the test.  It does need to be a person of normal size, male or female.   YOU WILL conduct the test... AND, this stranger you pick out, will conduct a test on you.  We will flip video the whole thing.

If you lose, then you will pay me, right there on the spot for the flight, AND, rather than give me $500, you will sign up, and buy a starter package valued at $500.

What do you have to lose, other than your pride and a $1,000 if you are PROVEN wrong?  On the other hand, IF you will... think about it... think about the You Tube hits you will get?  This would be a nightmare to C Prime!!! 

If we are on... write me back... and you'll see I'm not blowing smoke.  

You could take the easy route, and just order a bracelet. 

Otherwise, the line has been drawn in the sand... for all to see.

I'm smiling.... cause while I know I will most definitely follow through, this is your chance to make history in a small way...

David

Here's a quick response... regarding the world cure... first, they CANNOT make medical claims... I get that.  However, the double blind test will be revealing, due out end of March.  I may eat my words, but I don't think I will on this controlled, 3rd party testing. 

Also, regarding the world cure, I specifically talked to the founder of C Prime, who perfers to keep his name out of the limelight, but for humble reasons, about the philanthropic nature of the product.  I said, just for PR purposes, but also for humanity, what are your plans to donate these bracelets to people who could benefit from it?  He gave me a wonderful explanation about their plans, and told me this is an important part of their business model, but since they aren't launching until March 31st, it was premature to discuss this publically. 

Just keep doing your due diligence, as I am.

On the patent issue... read what I wrote Watchdog...

I"ve I'm off, by all means, set me straight on the patent issue.   I don't detect any kind of evasiveness in the leadership of this company. 

There is a multiplicity of stories I've heard, and know they are factual... it just keeps piling up... at what point do I throw in the towel and like the doubting Thomas say, I believe, even though I can't fully understand? 

I don't know. 

But, the towell is in my hand at least... and my arm is pulling back.  This is my journey into my investigation... I think its critical you have your own journey. 

It's still early in the game of C Prime, the people that will really feel foolish will be people like me, who had the opportunity to do the due diligence and instead choice to follow the nay sayers down their cynical path.

I hope I'm right... but, not for me... for all the millions of people who will benefit.

My 17 year old son is like an apologist, very logical in his thinking, and has a deep sense of living with a clear conscience.  He came home yesterday, telling a story of a boy in his school room who has damaged knees and restrictive movement.  He put the braclet on him, and the boy who could not stretch his arms past his knees, was able to touch the floor. 

The young man freaked out.

My son witnessed this, and freaked out himself... he did the test... he knows the young man, who has been in his class for 5 months... its all so strange.  But, even with this personal experience, my son still doubts and questions.  I get that.  I still do.  But, I"m moving cautiously forward into this venture... if I've proven wrong... I don't care... I have anything to prove.  I just want the truth. 

I spent a $1,000, on my own dime to go to Dallas... to see this first hand.  To say I'm glad I went is an understatment.  Regardless, of how this pans out, I'll NEVER think it was a waste of time or money.  It was my journey... I was there... I saw and witnessed the technology that put my brain in tilt.  I have no reference point for this... tis hard to swallow... but, it keeps coming back in my face...

One day I'll either laugh... and tell my grandchildren about the biggest scam that ever fooled me, or I'll tell a story about how I was there... before everything was official... and I saw it unfold before my eyes, and the life lessons, regardless of the outcome that I learned. 

To use a metaphor, I was expecting a stick of dynamite, I was hit with a hydrogen bomb. 

It's your journey... I encourage you to stay on this path... I have a deep, gut feeling.... I"m right on this one...

David

Sure... be glad to quickly respond.

1.  On the placebo bracelet.  This was introduced to me, in a setting with a C Prime rep, where I was completely unaware

of an existence of a placebo, look alike, C Prime.  I had every reason to believe it would work, and expected it to work.  But, noticed

it was missing its "magic" powers, I say this tongue and cheek. 

Then it was disclosed to me it was a fake.  I know it was a fake, because after realizing it, I tried it again, and then again, the difference

was obvious.

Along the same lines, and as I'm sure you know, the most ubitquious of the bands is Power Balance.  PB, is facing a class action lawsuit of

serious proportions.  Google this, you'll find it, unless you already know.   With Power Balance, and three other well knows bracelets, myself and

a neighbor did test after test with each of the bracelets, along with our wives... it was VERY clear the C Prime worked, while the others did not. 

How people even sell these other bracelets I don't know... unless they are manipulating the tests.  I just cannot relate to someone, against their conscience doing this.  I can tell you, I have no motivation to manipuate anything.  I have my own company, not an MLM, and  a GREAT deal of name respect to lose if I'm pedalling snake oil.  

2.  The explanation given to me re the desolate/desert/mountain type of locations had to do with cell towers, and various frequencies that populate a congested area.  There is no electro magnetic field interference. 

Frankly, I don't really care what the science is, I'm sure there is a science, but, all I know is I was expecting the C Prime bracelet to work, and it was useless! 

Along these lines, one of the tests they do is put a cell phone in your hand for a strength test, its painfully obvious how inhibited your strength is.  Then they put a C Prime bracelet on top of the phone, while you hold it... and wha la... strength is restored.  Its weird, its strange... but, it does work.

3.  Regarding the skin.  No, it does NOT have to be touching the skin.  There is NO metal touching skin.  In fact, you can have it in your pocket... no difference in how it works.  I have noticed if I have 2 it works slightly better.  It is discernable though.  I was told after 2 braclets there is no difference.

4.  Regarding the patent, I have since done my own research, and found that a patent pending, does not have to disclose any information, even if there is an application.  That's been my understanding, which does make sense, from an under the radar type of marketing approach. 

I'm confident there is a patent, otherwise, the other bracelets would be working just the same.

If I am being duped, which I'm not ruling out a 100%, then is it absolutely the best con job I've ever witnessed.  Because, all my friends, neighbors, whom are professional and smart people... are all being fooled as well. 

I told a good friend, who was at my home last night, a former elite athlete, quarterback for a division 1 team, that IF... IF this is really true, and IF the current 100 double-blind test that is being conducted (I personally know this for a FACT), and the results will be released by the end of March... then this is the most explosive, far reaching discovery I've ever been personally associated with in my 52 year life.   If I can profit from it, while helping people, there's nothing immoral or unethical about it. 

Finally, I'm a busy man, with no MLM history, and I understand the necessity of this MLM business model.  I'm not 100% behind it yet, but, I'm moving forward in good faith, making a deeper and deeper commitment with each passing day to get behind this.  Timing is important in these ventures, that I know, so I don't want to be shaking my head someday... thinking... why didn't I do my due diligence.  I am not blindly doing this... I can assure you, if it sounds like a duck, acts like a duck, and looks like a duck, its probably a duck.  So, if there is any snake oil to smell, I've got my sniffer open... and if I smell anything that smacks of quackery... I'm gone... but, thus far... its all looked legitimate.  I should mention I met the founder and had a close and personal conversation with him for over an hour.  There was no salesmanship going on... it was just a remarkable story... that left me and my wife shaking our heads ... marveling.  By the way, and this shocked me... 3 days ago, I met a former business partner, very successful man... I said to him, have you ever heard of "I named the founder"... he looked at me like a deer in headlights and said, that man worked for me for 8 years.  Can you imagine my shock?  He then took an hour and told me of his personal experience with the C Prime founder... and he said, he absolutely conducted himself with the utmost integrity in the 8 years he worked for him, and that was the secret to his success.

Finally, there is a lot more ice under this glacier, than I'm disclosing... but, even with all of this... I'm proceeding with caution... but, I'm proceeding.  It's early in the game... the official launch is not until March 31st in Dallas, and right now, I plan on being there... and I don't feel I'm caught up in any kind of hyperbole or hype, but rather genuine excitment... and my final statement:  If pride precedes the fall, then humility precedes the rise.  These are humble people, who are handling this like it is a sacred cow from India. 

There you go... the long version of my response to you!

David in TN

"magic holographic sound wave chronicles of narnia mystical nanotechnology" lmao, that was great.

All due respect, I have been trying to be more open-minded about this kind of thing, but I have to tell you, the lack of patent info is generally pretty revealing. There are alot of different types of people in the world, with varying beliefs in regard to science, spirituality, even the world of Physics has opposing views in the world of empirical science. All things have energy, all things vibrate at specific frequencies, so I do happen to believe that the future of health and medicine in general, say 100 years from now will probably involve processes that delve more into physics. Right now however, I think this is pure bunk.

I happen to agree with Watchdog that there simply is no patent, because there is no technology. This borders the silly world of spells and incantations, and if it has any value at all, it simply helps a person "will" them self into a healthier state of mind via their own belief in the product.

Had this not been a business, or something asking families to pay large sums of money for what amounts to a cracker jack box spy message decoder, I might not take such offense to it as a consumer, unfortunately, these companies and their products are taking advantage, and the best that these representatives can do is claim they themselves and people they know; have found a miracle cure through its use. Of course they have, they are working for the company. Of course they fully understand the validity of Watchdog's point, because they have no response to it, and of course they are challenging you to "see for yourself" because they will have succeeded in selling it to the skeptic....now that's salesmanship!

You want to unleash this new world cure? then distribute a million of them for free, and then let the miracle results speak for themselves. Distribute these bracelets to people in 3rd world countries who could never afford your MLM opportunity, or your bracelet. If you do that, I'll be one of the skeptics who pays for a single bracelet and gladly gives you the sale in honor of your effort.

I have no doubt a portion of cPrime associates believe in the product they are representing, after all, people believe in alot of things these days, so to those that really believe, I mean no disrespect with my skepticism. For those that sell it and "know" its a load, you are what's wrong with the business and marketing world, and I have absolutely no respect for you.

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I"ve done 20 tests in the past 2 weeks.

Here's an interesting observation.  Unknown to me, I was given a test with a placebo bracelet.  It was very obvious to me that the bracelet was broken or not working.  Secondly, I was told it did not work well, or perhaps at all, if it was in a high and desolate location.  I had forgotten this, and was doing a test on a friend... and it didn't work!  The only one that did not work... then I remembered what I was told.

In at least half of the tests, I have people who have nothing to prove or disprove... to do it on eachother

Hi David,

Thanks for your response. Could you clarify something for me? I'm unclear on whether you mean you were initially tested with a placebo bracelet, or that the one you used to test 20 people was a placebo bracelet?

Was any explanation provided as to why the test would not work in a high or desolate location?

I'm particularly interested in your results as a tester because it seems unlikely that you would be manipulating the results or be using any techniques used in some kinesiology style tests to skew the results. Results can sometimes be skewed based on expectation, but I'm much more skeptical when a trained company rep is administering the test vs a potential distributor or rep.

One more question - does the cPrime bracelet work through clothing? Does it need to be in contact with skin to work?

And glad that you understand what I'm saying about the provisional vs pending full patent application. Regardless of how I feel about the veracity of the cPrime bracelet claims, that one aspect alone - claiming a patent application when based on the timeline the facts appear in conflict - would make me shy away from the business all by itself.

Hi Watchdog,

I was introduced to this CPrime about 2 weeks ago.   Your point about the patent is well taken.  At my expense, my wife and I went to Dallas to see this first hand.  I've never done such a thing, but the test on me, ones I conducted on friends, children and had them do it on eachother yielded such similar results... I had to find out.

I"ve done 20 tests in the past 2 weeks.

Here's an interesting observation.  Unknown to me, I was given a test with a placebo bracelet.  It was very obvious to me that the bracelet was broken or not working.  Secondly, I was told it did not work well, or perhaps at all, if it was in a high and desolate location.  I had forgotten this, and was doing a test on a friend... and it didn't work!  The only one that did not work... then I remembered what I was told.

In at least half of the tests, I have people who have nothing to prove or disprove... to do it on eachother... same result everytime.

But, back to your patent issue... that is a very valid point!

I will have the opportunity to talk with someone who was involved at its inception, and I will press this issue.

If  you want to know my result, let me know.

David

P.S.  I hope this works, not for monetary reasons... but, for the sake of humanity... this would be a wonderful discovery.  They are conducting a 100 person, controlled, double blind test... they are humble about the pending results... we shall see.  I hope you are proven wrong...   By the way, I tried all the competitors bands, one at time... with the CPrime... no result

Jim,

The keyword 'scam' definitely gets attention. I don't know who is responsible for the Shameful Myths video.  But if the independent university placebo test had proven that cPrime provided a benefit, any benefit whatsoever, in a controlled scientific environment, it would also have attracted a lot of attention. Every cPrime bracelet marketer would have referred every one of their prospects to the study for a 'look, see!' validation.

The fact that the the independent study showed the bracelet as being nothing more than a piece of plastic is far more compelling as an indicator about the "cPrime Scam" ( in bold, for extra SEO juice! ) than a 'personal test'.

Ask your cPrime upline about the 'cPrime Patent'. There isn't one. The corporate office won't even answer any question regarding any patent. Patent's are a matter of public record once they are filed. The company constantly talks about the 'cPrime Patent Pending technology' with the full understanding that the average person buying the bracelet has no understanding of the patent process, but it sure sounds great in a marketing message!

 If the product really did what they said, there would MOST DEFINITELY be a patent application outlining it's special benefits so they could protect their magic holographic sound wave chronicles of narnia mystical nanotechnology from every other fake bracelet company in the world.  They company won't even answer the question 'has a patent application been filed'. I know, because I've emailed them and gotten nothing but nonsense responses.

"We can't talk about the patent."

"Why not? The purpose of a patent is to protect your proprietary technology. If one has been filed, you are protected from the date of filing if it is approved."

"We can't talk about the patent."

"Has a patent been filed?"

"We can't talk about the patent."

"Has a provisional patent application been file?"

"We can't talk about the patent."

"Is there any documentation about the patent other than the apparently false claim that there is a non-existent, hush-hush top secret never to be discussed patent application that you claim is pending, but can't provide any proof was ever filed?"

"We can't talk about the patent."

You can tell more sometimes from the absence of a thing, than you can by it's presence.

Take a look at what's been happening in Australia and other countries with their regulatory agencies stepping up and making these hokey bracelet companies admit there is no scientific evidence to back their claims.

Do you think cPrime still has every dollar to refund every customer who purchased one of these placebo bracelets?

'Negative' reviews tend to attract a lot of attention. In fact, the profitability of news programs is financially fueled by negative reporting.

Internet marketers use the keyword, "scam" get attention just like the news attracts viewers with negative stories. The  negative tends to attract the interest, for some silly reason, of 95% of our population.This has attracted numerous views because the author is SEO savvy.... which make me wonder what the true intent of this post really is... Oh Yeah, its to get you to click on the, "s Shameful Myths" video.

An intelligent person can quickly know if a demonstration of cPRIME technology is exaggerated or not. Experience the benefits for yourself... if it doesn't pass your personal test, return it for a full refund - no questions asked... http://www.jimhageman.com/cprime/

http://bit.ly/decide-for-yourself

To your massive success,

Jim Hageman

It only goes to show how the power of Belief can triumph over rational, critical thinking. A simple rubber trinket stamped out in a 3rd world sweatshop, no matter how "mystical" or "energetically charged" it may claim to be, will not magically transform the wearer and grant abilities which weren't present to begin with. Proper mindset can and does give an edge in athletic competition and other human endeavors, but if you don't have the underlying fundamentals, you won't gain superhuman or preternatural abilities...

http://zentropist.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/what-power-balance-bracelets-teach-us-about-belief/

News Flash for all the Power Balance Scam Defenders and Magical Performance Enhancement Wizards:

Power Balance has admitted there is NO SCIENCE behind their claims. ( Translation: All mumbo jumbo, trickery and placebo effect. And a very lucrative one at that ). ( Translation in case you aren't fluent in Australian - IT'S JUST A BRACELET )

In Australia, Power Balance distributors were ordered to drop "FALSE AND MISLEADING" claims that the wearers wuld experience an increase in strength, power and flexibility.

The company was fined for false advertising.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) ( The equivelent of the Federal Trade Commission ) found that Power Balance’s claims were unfounded, and forced the company to issue a statement in which it admits that there is no evidence to support what they say.

Power Balance wrote: "We admit that there is no credible scientific evidence that supports our claims." The company also agreed to give refunds to customers who believe they were cheated.

Power Balance also published this complete statement: ""In our advertising we stated that Power Balance wristbands improved your strength, balance and flexibility. We admit that there is no credible scientific evidence that supports our claims and therefore we engaged in misleading conduct in breach of s52 of the Trade Practices Act 1974. If you feel you have been misled by our promotions, we wish to unreservedly apologise and offer a full refund." 

In December, Italy's Antitrust Authority fined Power Balance 300,000 euro for not having proof of the claims made.

If Power Balance could demonstrate that their product had any effect on althletic performance, I'm sure they would have fought this. Cheers to Australia and Italy for being more pro-active than the regulatory commissions in the US. So many of these phoney hologram / resonance / energy field bracelets have sprung up that you can find knock-offs of knock-offs at mall kiosks now.

Australia also ordered the company to do all of the following:

1. Publishing, at its own expense, corrective advertisments
2. Ceasing to claim that the products
   • will improve the user's balance, strength and flexibility; or
   • are 'designed to work with the body's natural energy field';
   • nor, in conjunction with the Products, make claims that 'Power Balance is Performance Technology' or use the phrase "Performance Technology"
3. Ceasing to manufacture or import products contaning the words "Performance Technology"
4. Blacking out the words "Performance Technology" on its packaging
5. Replacing its promotional and marketing material
6. Offering full refunds, plus postage

Hi Michael, are there any companies operating currently that you feel ARE a scam? Just curious as to which ones if any.

Vitamark is an excellent company with a great reputation. Their products are top of the line. Crave Energy Drink is awesome and one of my favorite products.