Some of my favorite statements out there regarding holographic chips:

Combine old Chinese philosophy/ religion with a holographic sticker= cieaura. Before the sticker there was the laundry ball, smogbuster holographic disc, holographic bracelet, lifewave energy patch. Same old people, same old fake product.

Has the CieAura Chip been clinically tested? We are in the process of testing placebo controlled studies - clinical testing and results will be forthcoming. However, as of this time the CieAura Chip has not been clinically tested. (Quote from cieaura) So you launch a product into the market before it's tested??? What a joke.

 Are truth and facts important until they stand in the way of your dream of getting rich? People will soon realize they have been ripped off by the same jerks that conjured up the holographic nonsense that preceeded the holographic chips. Bio-magnetic sheath or human "aura" is theorized only in chinese philosophy and religion.

‎"Quackery is the promotion of false and unproven health schemes for a profit. It is rooted in the traditions of the marketplace", with "commercialism overwhelming professionalism in the marketing of alternative medicine".

This anyone can do. secure three chips cut the backings to the same size. Place two chips in side a small paper bag or container.  take the third chip into another room, place it on a strong magnet.  I am kinda old so I still have a tape degauzer used to  erase tapes. Medical magnets will likely do. You likely have magnets on your refrigerator. Hold the demagnetized chip between the thumb and index finger. If it is dead the tips of  those two fingers should not tingle or feel numb. I did this with the sinus chip it should work with the pain and energy chip as well. I wake most mornings with horrible sinus congestion. This morning at 6:30 when my alarm went off I reached into the bag and randomly selected a chip. I placed it behind my right ear and drank a bottle of water. I finally got out of bed at 9:30. I took the trash out to the curb, relief had not come. I removed the chip I had placed earlier in the morning at 10:am and pulled another from the bag. About 15 minutes after placing it behind my right ear I felt mucus drainage and the popping I usually hear when my sinuses open following congestion. Mucus is still drining and I am able to caugh it up and spit it out. It is now 1:47 in the afternoon.  I want to go on record that I am not a spokesman for Cieaura, I am a user. I am also a war veteran. Part of my left foot is still numb from a battlefield injury. More than 20 years ago I started looking for alternative pain and discomfort relief. Humans can not function under the influence of drugs for very long.  There are also many garden variety plants that solve most of the problems we take drugs to mask. I visit the my doctor every three months. However,  he and I discuss any preposed treatment. I am not advising anyone to disregard their doctor's advice, but remember he or she is human. If I remember the law of probability correctly there is a one in chance that I will select a chip when I reach into the bag three days from now. There is also a 1:1 probablity it will or will not bring relief. Game theory may also apply to our investigation.

I thought for a minute there you were going to explain the science with regard to the chip. I'm already familiar with the activity of a cell, however a persons own unique one of a kind DNA is what controls all functions of a single cell. Unless this chip actually re-programs the DNA in some way it will have no effect on even a single cell.  Seems as if all supporters of cieaura don't know what to say with regard to Rasner's history with similar products, nor explain scientifically how the chips are constructed. Too many simple unanswered questions, all you have is testimonials to sell this product. People have been asking "how to detect a live chip from a depleted chip" with no anwers to date. What do you have to say about Rasners connection to similar products, how do you explain the science in the chip? That's all we care about are facts not ideas and testimonials. 

[quote user="appierce"]

In the type of double blind experiment you speak of the data would still be skewed because I would know about the placebo. However, I will do that with my next customer and let you know the results. Please also remember some people do not benefit from the chips. We really need about ten subjects on the placebo and about the same number on the actual product to collect reliable data. We really also need someone with no interest in the outcome to conduct the test. We cannot get good data with just one person and one experiment.  Your suggestion will help to form a hypothesis.

Appierce

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No, you can still do the test with you and one other person, with you as the subject. It doesn't matter if you know about the placebo effect or not, the test is to gauge whether or not the CieAura stickers are bringing you the relief of if you yourself are generating the results. Having someone who already uses the stickers is the ideal scenario because they already believe that they're receiving the benefit of the product. Therefore, if someone else chooses the sticker, the results will immediately either validate or disprove CieAura's claims. Do you have someone that can perform this experiment on you?

In the type of double blind experiment you speak of the data would still be skewed because I would know about the placebo. However, I will do that with my next customer and let you know the results. Please also remember some people do not benefit from the chips. We really need about ten subjects on the placebo and about the same number on the actual product to collect reliable data. We really also need someone with no interest in the outcome to conduct the test. We cannot get good data with just one person and one experiment.  Your suggestion will help to form a hypothesis.

Appierce

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I am a 63 year old. Once a year I have an EKG. During the last one I had an energy chip on my chest. The machine would not take a reading of my chest until I removed the chip. She changed the contact three times before I told her what was wrong.  I am convinced that the products work. I have used the pain chips as well. There was sudden and complete relief of pain. My comments were intended to support the produces. They work and I am sure that a lot of money and time is being spent to discredit  these products.  That was the agenda to which I referred. I hope that my position is now clear. I am a master retailer and I give the chips to people who truely want to improve.

Appierce

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Any chance you could conduct that test I suggested to see if it's actually the CieAura stickers that are giving you those results and not just the placebo effect? Love to see your results!

I am a 63 year old. Once a year I have an EKG. During the last one I had an energy chip on my chest. The machine would not take a reading of my chest until I removed the chip. She changed the contact three times before I told her what was wrong.  I am convinced that the products work. I have used the pain chips as well. There was sudden and complete relief of pain. My comments were intended to support the produces. They work and I am sure that a lot of money and time is being spent to discredit  these products.  That was the agenda to which I referred. I hope that my position is now clear. I am a master retailer and I give the chips to people who truely want to improve.

Appierce

Not to be argumentative, but holographic stickers can't affect anything beyond the adhesive making them stick to your skin. There is no "science" involved with CieAura's product, period. If there were, there would be quantifiable test results done on machines that can register the technology embedded in the sticker. Applied kinesiology is not science. And if CieAura has developed the biomedical breakthrough of the century, is a MLM scheme really the way to serve humanity?

To all you CieAura true believers, try this at home: have a family member choose between a Pokemon sticker and CieAura sticker, and let them apply it to you without you knowing which one they chose. Have them cover it with a piece of gauze so you can't tell which one it is. Repeat this experiment a minimum of three times in succession. Register the results. If the CieAura stickers are truly what you think they are, the results will be in your favor. If however you get the same results from the Pokemon stickers, then congratulations, we just saved you a ton of money and you still get your energy/pain relief/restful sleep, AND you get to look stylishly cool at the same time.

Once again legitimatebusinessman, I agree that you have the right to believe in what you want.  Having said that the beauty of being an individual is that I too have that right.  I'm not going to call you dumb, stupid, or any other name...nor will I insult your intelligence.  The fact is that science has proven that everything has some sort of vibration, which in effect creat a frequency.  Go back to basic biology.  In your cells you have a nucleus and the protons, electrons, and nuetrons spin around this nucleus at speeds that are truely amazing.  That is fact, not some middle eastern hocaus pocaus.  In addition, most of the FDA approved products have caused ill effects in mankind all the way up to death.  Traditional medicine doesn't have the sole rights to all the best ideas.  I recently read of a commonly used pain killer causing 12,000 deaths in one year.  By the way, what type of business do you run legitebusinessman?

My goal is to follow the example of many others on this site who like to be informed, and educated about products and those who are behind them. Rasner has a shady background.  I don't doubt that many people believe in a human aura, I don't because science doesn't. Even if we did have an aura what are the chances of everyone's aura responding to the same "frequencies" that are embedded in the chip? if it was even possible to put frequencies in a chip. We are way too complex and unique to be able to slap on a chip and have it tune our individual "frequency" if we even had one.  Rasner has no medical or scientific background but rather techniques to getting rich, amassing great wealth, marketing, business etc. Why trust  this guys "health" product and the "science" behind it if that's not what he specializes in?  I wouldn't take my injured dog to a lawn mower repair shop for treatment.  Facts are that bogus alternative medicine is everywhere, cieaura just happens to currently be taking the lead.  Just a new mystical twist on some old Upanishad ideas.  Maybe you should wiki Upanishad so you know what I'm talking about. All the mystical/ scientific talk cieaura uses speaks volumes in the alternative medicine quackery world. I just wish everyone was not so easily fooled.

What frustrates me is that all who are oppossed to CieAura assume that anyone involved have some sort of agenda...have you even considered that the only reason that I refer these products is because they have actually worked for me.  As for the EKG....I am a 32 year old male and happen to be one of the healthiest persons I know.  I am not oppossed to testing these products in whatever manner necessary to prove any point one way or the other...however I would have a hard time convincing my doctor that I need an EKG to prove a point to appierce.  I apologize for my blunt comment but I have no agenda other than I am amazed at the results I have seen with many of the people I have referred these products to.  I am not making massive money in this business, and that isn't my goal.  I am a business professional that makes his money in the financial services industry while referring this product to the people I meet from time to time who mention the need.  I do not exploit the people I meet...I offer and give it to them and should it work to their satisfaction they can go to my website and purchase.  But make no mistake, I am not stopping people in the hallways, diners, bus stops, etc...just to make massive amounts of money...I simply refer it to people who I overhear of wanting help in certain areas.  I have no problem testing this any particular way...shoot me some suggestions that will not cost me massive amounts of money just so you can get a moral thrill.  By the way, what is your agenda...if you had a need and found something that worked would you listen to what anyone one else said...or would you allow the biases of the loudest to shape your own experience?  Perhaps you tried an MLN in the past in hopes to make massive amounts of money and now live in regret or hatred to anything outside of tradtional medicine.  If that's the case - let it go.  By the way - what is your conclusion as to what should happen while having an EKG and what is the importance as it relates to your bias.

I have been following your comments on the cieaura products. I know that your agenda will not allow you to do this, but acquire an energy chip and wear it for your next EKG.  I am curious to know the reading you get. Again I do not expect a reply from you. Silence will further amplify your agenda.

appierce

If cieaura's revolutionary technology was real why would it need to be multi-level marketed?  Why can't I stroll into my local Wal-mart and pick up a box of chips?  The "science" behind the chip is really infact the perpetuation of erroneous religious beliefs that have been handed down for 4 to 5000 years.  If you reasearched the origin of "aura" and belief in such, you would know this, since this is the basis for the chip. Science says there is no "aura". Ancient chinese middle eastern religion believes the aura exists. The wild claims cieaura makes about "frequencies" "vibrations" "balance" is the same old psuedoscience quackery that's been around for some time, you should already know this if you have done your homework.  Most products at my local Wal-mart are FDA approved and scientifically proven, they don't rely on vague mystical religious terms to promote sales and stir ones curiosity.  If science says there is no aura then there is nothing to treat with a holographic chip. Have you seen the lab photos of harmonic fm? Do a little more research into this before you make another comment about this so you don't have to look so dumb.   My reply to whatdoesitmatter.

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I am sorry.  I thought the whole point of this forum was to be able to speak our mind.  Listen, you missed the point.  I challenged you to try the product.  If you want to go after someone who is making false claims, try one of those juice companies - they say their product is a cure all.  As for the rock - someone made money selling a pet rock...remember that one.  And no one went after them - how absurd,a rock that is a pet (mental at the very least).  You have every right to be contrary - I respect that...but there are many people more intellectual than you or I who have tried the product and have had results - try it!

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Great thread! Before I throw my two cents in here, let me state for the record that I have in fact tried and gotten zero effects from these stickers (they are not "chips" as that would suggest that there is some sort of quantifiable tech involved behind their miraculous workings; this is simply not the case). I have a cousin who started repping for CieAura back in December and she sent me some samples. As I said, no results, and I followed the directions to the letter. I'm pretty open minded when it comes to alternative therapies and homeopathic treatments, but the more I looked into CieAura's claims the more I realized that this is nothing more than a smoke and mirrors dog and pony show designed to prey off the easily fooled. These stickers are mass produced for .05 cents per unit and laser etched with the CieAura logo and whichever label applies to each sticker. The only science involved here is the actual hologram itself, but that's where it ends. A bit about holograms: while it's true that there are data storage applications for holographic tech, there is at this stage in the development no quantifiable way to embed holographic stickers with anything that will effect the body's natural on-board healing process. The argument that the sticker has been "programmed" with "resonant frequencies" and "magnetic properties" is 100% arse and has yet to be proven by provable scientific methods. Applied kinesiology is not one of those methods. Neither are the thousands of glowing testimonials. The only thing that's bringing relief to CieAura's biggest users is the idea that the product works, which in turn gears the mind into manifesting the desired results. That's it and that's all. Interestingly, I recently began politely questioning this product on a CieAura peddler's YouTube post, but with every question I posed the only reply he posted in return was an offer to come to his location to try the product myself so I could see the truth (nevermind the fact that I'd stated that I've already tried them and had no results). As of yesterday, he changed the settings on his post so no comments could be added, and all former correspondence has been erased.

Until CieAura can produce a truly scientific study that can be replicated by independent testers to support their claims, there is nothing to validate this product.

Final note to all CieAura true believers: if you truly feel that you are receiving positive relief from these products and that the cost is justified, then by all means please continue to give CieAura your money. I only hope that another miracle product comes along that will fill that broken void in your heart when  CieAura is exposed for perpetrating this scam and you realize that you've been duped all along.

Sorry, no sale.

Watchdog, 

I am a cprime distributor and felt the need to address several points that you made above. This is a brand new company, 2 months old to be exact, there are many people out there including distributors that are still educating themselves on the product.  The proprietary technology is held within the chip inside the bracelet. So your question is what is the technology? Truth is there is no clear explanation on what's in the chip and frankly once you have done the demostrations CORRECTLY ( i emphasize this because so many people out there have no idea what there doing) there's really no need in understanding the technology. The fact is the bracelet works, obviously you have not met with a knowledgeable individual who could show you the product. If you went and researched what the technology is and days or months later came back with an answer would it work any differently? No. It will work the same. And if someone wants to quiz you that hard on the technology are they going to buy one? Probably not. Ive sold ton and cant keep them on me, so theres definitely a market out there for this product. More research will be coming out soon to validate many of the claims. Again, the company is brand new. Your second statement was the cPRime may yield benefits and that was the lamest pitch you have ever heard. Those of us who know the product, should understand that you are dealing with a constant and a non-constant with this product. The constant is the bracelet, never changes. The non-constant is the individual, what it does for you, may not yield the same results for me and vice-versa. No one is making a claim here that this is the wonder bracelet of the century and if they are they need to realign their thoughts. Fact is if the demonstrations are done right, i can guarantee i can reproduce the same results 100% of the time, and no theres not a trick to doing the demonstrations. For many, (notice i did not see everyone) people will notice they can do a lot more in reference to flexibility, balance, strength, and endurance than they could without the bracelet on and this is what makes this product special. So the MAY yield benefits is certainly the appropriate term here to use. I love your third statement about double blind test and love it when skeptics come to our meetings because we have a field day with them. I have done a single-blind test using a placebo band, cprime without the chip, only the person doing the demonstration knows which bracelet the person is putting on. The mind component for the person being tested is thrown out the window along with supposedly advanced kinesiology. So if placebo, explain to me why we put the placebo band on the individual do the test, they lose their balance etc. and then put the cprime band on (with chip) and its different. Oh let me guess its because were pulling differently and were making the test turn out how we want it to isnt it?  WRONG. Again, i encourage you to meet with someone knowledgeable. Secondly, in reference to double blind test. Explain this, there are 5 cups of water place the band under one by a guest that has never seen cprime. He places it under cup 4. Neither myself (tester) or the one being tested no which cup the band is under. We do the test and the 4th and 5th demonstration or somehow different. Must have been the tester right ? No, he didn't know which one it was under. Must have been the person being tested he was placed there secretly to amaze all the people there wasn't he. People like you crack me up. Please come to a meeting so I can embarrass you. Hey il let you do the test on me so you know how hard your pulling etc. See so many of these post from people like you that have never seen the bracelet and are knocking it, think im done now, i wasted about 10 minutes of my time but maybe this will shed some light on your blindness. 

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I would encourage people to learn about the benefits of cPrime first hand as opposed to misconstruing this as a scam. 

cPRIME develops fashion-forward performance wear products built around powerful proprietary technology that can change your life, at the speed of light.

Observational data and user feedback have demonstrated that cPRIME may yield benefits in strength, balance, flexibility, and endurance. Try it for yourself and feel the power of cPRIME.

1. What proprietary technology? There is no patent information available. Please prove somehow that there is a 'technology' of any kind in these bracelets.

2. Observational data have demonstrated that the cPRime scam ***MAY*** yied benefits...that's the lamest pitch I've ever heard.

You know, when I was in college, observational data and user feedback demonstrated that excessive beer drinking made me smarter, funnier, taller, gave me superpowers, improved my wittiness and charm to the opposite sex, and most definitely made them better looking too. The fact was I was just drunk, young and stupid and as much as I'd love to be able to tell people beer has some magical effect, we all know, it's just a delicious beverage.

And the fact is, the cPRIME bracelets do nothing, and it's just the Placebo Effect that ***MAY*** make gullible people think they are experiencing real benefits, vs placebo benefits.  If they really did something measurable, don't you think the company line would be "PROVEN TO YEILD THESE BENEFITS!!!!" instead of the lame ***may yeld benefits*** disclaimer designed to keep the FDA off their backs?

None of these companies will agree to a double blind test. Why don't you ask your upline to put a cPrime bracelt in a cloth pouch, and a regular bracelet of the same size and weight in a pouch, and demonstrate any difference when they do the applied kinesiology tests on a 'subject'.  It's all about the suggestion and the manipulation of the tester. That's why so many of these new scam products use the same bogus tests. cPrime, CieAura, EFX power bracelet, and so on.

Or, maybe it's just a coincidence and they all have the exact same magical powers.

I would encourage people to learn about the benefits of cPrime first hand as opposed to misconstruing this as a scam. 

cPRIME develops fashion-forward performance wear products built around powerful proprietary technology that can change your life, at the speed of light.

Observational data and user feedback have demonstrated that cPRIME may yield benefits in strength, balance, flexibility, and endurance. Try it for yourself and feel the power of cPRIME.

Visit http://www.mycprime.com/buy_now/ and learn more about this product and the tremendous business opportunity available.

Ken Rasner was part of the LifeWave management team along with Warren Hanchey who has also started his own SCAM called 8ight.

Same idea from Warren with a holographic chip and a bracelet much like the Power Balance bracelet which has already been EXPOSED as a SCAM on Australian TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0Gb9EgkHA&feature=related

Ken and Warren are claiming essentially the same thing for their SCAM except that Hanchey claims his product doesn't wear out!

The LifeWave SCAM is still going after 5 years.

I guess when people finally realize how much they've paid for a placebo they feel too embarrassed to complain to the proper authorities.

Folks in Australia are much more willing to call a spade a spade and make their complaints to the FTC.

LifeWave distributors are banned from advertising their product on the internet although some websites are still up and running illegally.

The LifeWave Patent application was never approved.

It has been turned down more than once. Still, it only costs $75 to apply!

If LifeWave really had a breakthrough product, as David (not a doctor or a scientist but does have a 2 year Business diploma from Pace University) they

would have been granted a Patent for their product.

LifeWave would have also applied for world wide patents. They did not, and that speaks volumes.

So, flat footed Ken Rasner will continue this SCAM for as long as he can before moving on and reinventing himself one more time.

His bio will not mention CieAura when he moves on. It doesn't mention LifeWave by name now.

Ken's wife, the optometrist, will continue to fund his wacky SCAMS until the money starts to roll in and one of his sons will kindly take pictures of events in

between the nude photography gigs.

You couldn't make this stuff up, even if you tried!

I know someone who has just become a rep. THis is a total scam and she is bright, has a degree in bio-chem and I wonder why she has fallen for this bologna!! Anyway, I have asked her many times to explain the commission structure. She said that they cannot promise any money..... so how much do reps get paid? I am very curious. Did you ever make any money? Was it a total waste of your time? How hard was it to sell or interest people. I am  a (proud) Tupperware rep... I tried to encourage her that if she really wants to go into direct sales, at least join a company that has been established and successful for 52 years... not 2 months!!

Thanks for your comments!

TupperwareLady7

"You bring the people and I will bring the party!"

I know someone who has just become a rep. THis is a total scam and she is bright, has a degree in bio-chem and I wonder why she has fallen for this bologna!! Anyway, I have asked her many times to explain the commission structure. She said that they cannot promise any money..... so how much do reps get paid? I am very curious. Did you ever make any money? Was it a total waste of your time? How hard was it to sell or interest people. I am  a (proud) Tupperware rep... I tried to encourage her that if she really wants to go into direct sales, at least join a company that has been established and successful for 52 years... not 2 months!!

Thanks for your comments!

TupperwareLady7

"You bring the people and I will bring the party!"

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I can see you've certainly done your due diligence with regard to wanting to see how/if the chips actually work.  And I can understand how you've come to your conclusion that they are only a placebo since the company has not been as forthcoming as one would expect.  Did you choose to devote this much time to the required research as part of your decision on whether to use the products or do you simply find that type of research interesting?  I guess I'm curious what led you to it in the first place, i.e. what's your why?  Are you a medical doctor and as a result, seeking out the actual science in the literature?  If so, that makes sense to me.

I can tell you we've personally spoken with several doctors, both medical and chiropractic, who seem to have a better understanding of the 'why' or 'how' behind the chips functions.  We've also seen some of these same doctors demonstrate the kinesiology or muscle response testing using the chips in a packet where 3 different chips were in the packet, and removing them one by one to where they identified one specific chip worked on a specific situation and not on another.  Again, I'm sure there are many who also don't believe in kinesiology, but they most likely also don't believe in acupuncture or acupressure either.

At this point, I choose to agree with 'drugfreehealth' that time will tell IF, as you believe, CieAura is hiding the fact these are no more than stickers and everyone's positive results are simply the placebo effect.  Until then, I, like drugfreehealth, believe they DO work and I also believe there IS science behind them that they are just not willing to share yet, for reasons we're not yet privy to.  Again, if they were truly just a placebo, how do they work on animals and small children who can't reason that it SHOULD help them, which is how a placebo works for anyone, i.e. their own brain convincing them it did.  How do you explain that?  Do you think we're all willing ourselves to believe our animals and children are receiving the benefits?  That is not logical to me since there are also way too many skeptics who now 'believe' the product works.  How did the placebo affect change their opinions from 'no way' to 'oh my gosh'.

I don't believe the company is a scam, regardless of Mr. Rasner's past associations with LifeWave and the information you've discovered regarding previous patent applications.  There will always be negative press on any network marketing company, always has and it appears, always will.  So, I guess, for that reason, I have become accustomed to making my own decision about a company or product, as objectively as possible without listening to the negative hype that so many people choose to spread, i.e. 'all network marketing companies are pyramids'.  To me, that's just someone who's uneducated and is brushing with too broad a stroke because of the real bad apples out there that have given this industry an undeserved reputation.

If network marketing were truly a scam industry as some seem to believe, I don't think Robert Kiyosaki, Donal Trump and Warren Buffett would recommend it as one of the best business models for those wanting to create wealth today, much less would they have invested in NM opportunities.

That being said, I understand you're not necessarily slamming NM as many here seem to be, and I think you raise many valid questions, some of which, we've raised ourselves. I, too, hope the company soon chooses to release the information behind their patent claims so we can put this all to rest, one way or the other.  Since we are choosing to believe they DO work, having the supporting documentation behind us would definitely be very beneficial.

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Full disclosure: my cousin is a CieAura rep and when she contacted me with this "amazing new healing technology" I was more than willing to listen. She gave me her pitch and sent me some samples of each CieAura product. While waiting for them to arrive (she lives in another state) I started looking into this "holographic" technology that CieAura supposedly employs for their miracle products. The deeper I dug, the more red flags started popping up left and right. By the time my CieAura sample pack arrived, I was already of the mindset that this was just another ridiculous scam foisted on a gullible public. I tried the CieAura stickers (to refer to them as "chips" is to give them a level of credibility that is not warranted) and, not surprisingly, got zero results. Nada. Nothing. My cousin and I had several back and forths which consisted of me presenting her with common sense queries about the "science" behind these products, the testing methods of the stickers, do they wear out after a certain amount of time, how are the results quantified etc, and while she tried to field my questions, it was fast becoming clear that there were no answers to be had other than "overwhelmingly positive personal testimony" and "clinical trials are forthcoming". We thusly parted ways, she convinced that I was just being difficult, and I convinced that she was either A) just as gullible as the poor fools who don't realize that their own minds were manifesting the results they wished to see from the products or B) fully aware that this is nothing more than a scam and a willing accomplice to the fleecing of the ignorant and desperate.

So here, for any CieAura enthusiasts who may visit this forum, are some questions. They should be easy enough to answer if the product is truly what it claims to be.

1. I studied the samples I received very closely and there is nothing -nano or otherwise- ingrained, embedded, etched or otherwise implanted onto or into these stickers that could have any effect whatsoever on the body's magnetic fields, harmonic frequencies, et al. How can a hologram sticker be "programmed" when all a hologram really is is a laser-etched piece of plastic?

2. If CieAura has a device that quality checks each sticker to ensure that the "programming" has been successfully incorporated (and there's no reason in the world why they wouldn't have such a device) why not use that data to substantiate their claims? Stands to reason that it'd silence the naysayers in a heartbeat, and it wouldn't necessitate the divulgence of proprietary information.

3. If this incredible breakthrough is really so incredible, why offer it solely through a multilevel marketing program? And on the same note, we're expected to believe that with the billions of dollars of biomedical research going on in both public and private think tanks across the globe, this multilevel marketing outfit stumbled upon the breakthrough of the century and decided it would best serve humanity by presenting it as a "get rich through others" networking scheme? I'm fairly certain that they'd stand to make way more money if they'd simply license the tech and distribute it through legitimate channels.

There are more questions of course, but those address the core concerns. Hopefully the answers are forthcoming.

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[quote user="Jim Heron"]

Has anyone reported to any State Attorney General or the FTC about the inability to receive a refund?

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Sometimes you have to love the Freedom of Information act.

One phone call, and I was able to answer my own question. I received a packet from the FTC today with several pages of complaints about CieAura.

The mildest is one complaining about paying $5.95 for priority shipping, and not receiving overnight shipping.

The others are filed under claims of "Deception/Misrepresentation": I will try to scan and post the complaints here if possible.

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Please do! I've been searching for hard data that can be used to bring truth to CieAura devotees. :)

I heard the owner of this company has had his own identity stolen 13 times now because of his commercials with his SS # plastered all over the place. Can we say karma?

Laura

All these companies like LifeLock are taking advantage of peoples fear.  Anyone can place their own fraud alert. 

EFX and Power Balance are the same company selling simliar BS products with either a hologram (a negative produced by exposing a high-resolution photographic plate, without camera or lens, near a subject illuminated by monochromatic, coherent radiation, as from a laser: when it is placed in a beam of coherent light a true three-dimensional image of the subject is formed.) or lithograph (the art or process of producing a picture, writing, or the like, on a flat, specially prepared stone, with some greasy or oily substance, and of taking ink impressions from this as in ordinary printing.)

Both are just a PICTURE. Oh WOW!!  No wonder it works so well!!!!  NOT!!  Power Balance was band for the State of California for fraud, so magically EFX came on the scene. and yes they are owned by the same person.