You seem to be deliberately avoiding the question.

A hologram, just like a picture, does not have any inherent 'frequency'. Colors reflect light of a certain spectrum. Holograms display an image not through a 'frequency' but through an effect referred to as 3D photography. A hologram can not be 'programmed' with a frequency or a 'program'. No more than a photograph can be embedded with a program that somehow magically interacts with you when you look at it.

You may enjoy looking at it, but it doesn't interact with you via a program.

And you are using a quantum physics explanation of theory about the way the mind works ( Pribram's Theory ) and misapplying it to something that is merely a 3D hologram - not 'recognition holography'

CieAura was asked if they could demonstrate how a 'program' could be embedded in what is nothing more than the image you have on your credit card to prove it's authenticity - a CieAura hologram that supposedly 'depletes' when in contact with the human body, and if they could demonstrate the ability to tell a 'used' hologram from a 'new' hologram.

They didn't reply to any queries. Know why? It's all a big fat scam meant to lull people like yourself info a false sense of wonder and belief because of big words and hocus pocus to trick you into thinking it has some kind of effect other than your own mind playing tricks on you.

If the company could provide these simple proofs in a blind test - they would. Since they can't, they ignore them.

All the references in the world won't dismiss the fact that the validity of any of their claims can not be proven at all in any blind test.

The transparent hologram is the core of the CieAura scam. Plain and simple. If you have some proof to provide, I'll gladly retract all of my statement.

Has anyone taken into consideration what all matter is made up of?  Or, that everything we see, taste, feel, hear, and smell are frequencies?

“Same as with the EFX Scam, where they claim the hologram has a frequency - how does a hologram ( basically just an image embedded within a semi transparent medium ) have a "Program".  This is just total and complete bullshit foisted on an unsuspecting public. It's like saying the photo on your desk of your Mother has a 'frequency' or has been 'programmed'.”…

Without frequencies how is it that you are able to see the photo of your Mother, or a hologram? I am not of the sciences I am a layman, but I have a basic understanding that all matter as we know it is vibrational frequencies including our bodies. The easiest one we are able to relate to are radio frequencies, of course. I also barely remember learning light being made of frequencies.

There are plenty of references such as: http://www.answers.com/topic/frequency

If we understand that matter is made up of frequencies including our own, why is it difficult to understand holograms are also frequencies?

I have found just a little bit of research might help shed a whole lot of light on a subject that might seem false but actually has some truth, by offering how or why something may or may not work… like holograms.

The first hologram was made in 1947 by Dennis Gabor, a Hungarian-born scientist who was working at the Imperial College of London. Gabor made a transmission hologram by carefully filtering his light source, but the process did not become practical until technology provided a way to produce coherent light—light that consists of a single frequency and a single wavelength. Nearly a quarter century after he had made the first hologram, Gabor was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics for this achievement in 1971. http://www.answers.com/topic/hologram

The mind itself operating in a holographic manner? Paul Pietsch (1981) simply could not believe Pribram's theory, and he set out to disprove the holographic theory of the brain… http://www.survey-software-solutions.com/walonick/reality.htm

Are these things to consider that might help you before you come to a final conclusion? Won't you always wonder now? maybe not

Ken Rasner, CieAUra and Warren Hanchey, 8ight were both part of the LifeWave management team.

They have both distanced themselves from LifeWave using various reasons for why they left the former SCAM.

The LifeWave patches did not use a holographic sticker but used two patches. One brown (glucose) and one white (glycerin) were said to contain magic nano antennas that "communicated" with your body cells.

As with CieAura and 8ight holographic stickers (just a few cents when purchased in bulk), LifeWave patches were cheap to produce. In the early days, Mrs. Schmidt reported David Schmidt mixed the ingredients for the patches on their kitchen table. Schmidt later went on to dump his wife, children and the family dog, and head off to his new lifestyle in LA.

Power Balance is also a holographic sticker SCAM endorsed by Shaquille O'Neal. Shaq is no stranger to SCAMS having been involved in previous SCAMS.

The old saying is as true today as ever.

There's a sucker born every minute!

Have you had the joy yet of visiting his "harmonic fm" website?  Better yet is his his home site when you google "ken rasner"  I think it says some crap about how "GOD" comes first in his life, then sorta concludes with highlights on his book on " amassing extreme wealth"  didn't Jesus say you cannot slave for God and for riches?  Why do people buy into this stuff?

I don't believe I have ever read a bio as vague as Rasner's.  Why doesn't he name the "major university" he taught at in So. California?  Probably because he never taught there. "One of Mr. Rasner's two master's degrees is in administration; the other is in music. He has served on the faculty at a major university in Southern California." 

Great points Watch Dog!

I contacted the company two weeks ago via their chat and support form, asking for information on who to contact to do a live blind test, or to speak to someone in management by phone -

Still no response from CieAura. You would think that they a company being labeled as the CieAura Scam would be glad to back up their claims with a simple 5 minute test, or at least discuss it with someone.

I also asked if they could detect a used from a new holographic sticker.

Not a peep out of the company.

Yes, but not in the way you probably intend!  Your eloquent use of the "f" word speaks volumes about you.

"Identical".  Really?  How do you know it's identical?  What tests have you conducted to come to the conclsion it's identical?

[quote user="WatchDog"]No blind test between this product or a Pokemon sticker will ever produce any result besides the placebo effect.[/quote]

LMFAO!

None of these products can produce any measurable results other than the placebo result.

Cieaura Scam = Pokemon Stickers. Perfect.

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How about full disclosure for the others who are posting here?  What are your respective agendas?

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I should have stated this fact from the start.  CieAura DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA TO BE INCLUDED IN WIKIPEDIA. Everything that is REAL, LEGITIMATE, TANGIBLE, ETC. IS IN WIKIPEDIA.   Anything lacking verifiable fact and real evidence WILL NOT BE FOUND ON WIKIPEDIA.

For example, you can find fart, bubble bath, crap, paperclip, etc. on wikipedia. CieAura and holographic chip  just isn't there because it's not real, tangible, legitimate, factual.

Don't you think anyone who invented a multimillion dollar product want to create an article in wiki?   THIS IS CONCRETE PROOF OF JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF PSUEDOSCIENCE QUACKERY.  If you are marketing this product you should be ashamed of youself. 

After spending an extra minute looking at those "lab photo's" i noticed the red hand held torch bottles sitting there. Who would be using torches in a carpeted room especially with no fire extinguisher in sight? I also like the pic where you see the 2 desks 90 degrees from each other. Does the "scientist" keep fighting his chair as it rolls off the pad into the carpet? To me that would get old real quick. The whole scene is so fake, low budget and ridiculous you just have to wonder. 

This explains so much about the CieAura scam, and the CieAura Holographic Energy Chip hoax.

Like why they would not respond to the question about whether they can detect a 'live' chip from a 'used' chip.

What a joke.

http://www.harmonicfm.com/corporate.html

Can someone please visit this 'corporate address' and videotape their visit and post it here and on Youtube?

How can people fall for a scam like this?

Harmonic FM was formed in late 2005 and moved to the below office address in 2007. 

3610 Old Atlanta Road , Suwanee, GA  30024

That's the new office? Was the old office in someone's garage? Or someone's mother's attic?

Question to all cieaura workerbees:  Have you visited the harmonic fm site and seen the "lab" where your "chip" technology is produced?   If youre all in with this "chip" technology please for my sake and others whose brain still functions beg ken rasner to come up with a more believable website because that harmonic fm site is a joke.  What's up with the guy in the lab coat and shades?  Who wears shades indoors besides tweekers, drunks and stoners?

This is what I have discovered. The very word AURA has a connection with "Paranormal" according to wikipoedia.  Paranormal is basically something that is "outside" or "beyond" accepted science of today. So how the hell can anyone design anything with today's applied science to something that is "outside" todays accepted science?  Ken Rasner """ed up when he placed the word "aura" in connection with his company and product. Kinda knocks the balls off it right out of the gate.

If this CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip product is legit, the company must have a way of detecting a live chip from a used chip.

Otherwise how would they know the manufacturing process is working?

Now if someone can just explain how to tell the difference.

I want to try to be a bit clearer about my actual question:

Is there any way to measure if a chip is depleted? Any device that can detect a depleted chip vs an active chip?

Here is the info about the CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip from the site.

Only your body's electromagnetic field activates the chips. Microwave ovens, bedside clock, cordless phones, etc. are not a problem. The activation does not start a "timer" -- the chips only deplete based upon continuous exposure to the human body’s own energy field. As soon as it's removed -- it stops. The electromagnetic field produced from the body is actually different from commonly measured EMF’s. These are “intrinsic energies” (not measured the same way EMF’s are measured) and are the same energies stored in our Chips for release.

It goes on to say:

There are two reasons you don't want to put a bunch of chips in your pocket:
1. They are then activated and with continuous exposure to the body’s energy field will use the chips. Leaving them there will reduce their effectiveness.

You wanna good gut bustin laugh?  Google harmonic fm.  Click on "corporate offices" and check out the "lab photos" where holographic science and technology is currently being worked on.  I think, no i know i have more money invested in my music room/office than this "lab"  I really dig the wal-mart organizer/ pull out trays sittin on the desk.  What a friggin joke.  Besides all that ther is no phone number to call. 

The CieAura phone number is:

1 800 648 9056

It's a voicemail system. I have been unable to reach anyone live.

Live chat support is at :

http://cieaura.helpserve.com/

A short while ago i invested a sum of money into this "new" network marketing company which sells "calling cards" there company is ran on "mobile marketing" , basically how i was told the company works is that you sign up into there pyramid scheme. starting out you are required to sign up with a minimum amount of $295 which gives you a short code to text to "82222" and receive a text message back with a brief add and/or advertisement. I thought to myself this is a good company to invest into. Not knowing that the people who run this company including the owner Nicolas Yabar, are a bunch of power hungry, greedy, manipulative lying individuals with no morals who have built there so called "company" on lie's as well as ripping people off. There is a guarantee that you will not get a cent back from what you give to this company. There are several warnings posted online to watch out for Jim Ferras, Al Krauza and Nicolas Yabar who feign off taking peoples money with no shame and claiming they run a company. The company has changed its name numerous amount of times, i believe possibly because they have filed for bankruptcy or just had to because they had such a bad reputation. Real network marketing companies such as Mona Vie, Avon and Herbalife do not have a bunch of lying, manipulative, vindictive, scam artist's running a company stealing people's money and commissions and getting rich off peoples hard earned money they sweat and work hard for. The moral of this educating blog is PLEASE do not do business with the company "Biz82222" or Nicolas Yabar, Jim Ferras, and Al Krauza .. they should be ashamed of themselves. Invest your money into a real company, not a bunch of low life crooks. if you would like to look more into this scam of a company please visit www.bizglobalmedia.com or www.bizglobalmedia.biz

WOW, I can remember playing both of those games at my youth group sleep over when I was about 13.  You forgot the Ouija Board...

Some people will stop at nothing to trick their fellow man into giving them money...

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Amega Bio Magnetic Bracelet Scam

A friend just introduced me to this product. Remarkable how yet another bracelet product promises the exact same results as the EFX scam. What struck me was that they were using the EXACT SAME hoax I remember as a kid at sleepovers and birthday parties. Known as "Party Levitation", or "Light as a Feather, Stiff as a Board", it was always performed the same way. I had a magic book I was given as a 2nd grader that described this very trick:

This reminds me of another party trick - you have someone stand in a doorway and they press the backs of their hands against the doorframe and count to ten. Then you step out and your hands seem to rise and feel light as a feather.

That's a freebie for the sales geniuses at Amega, and CieAura, and EFX.

Just have your rubes put on the bracelet or the sticker, and tell them they need to stand in the doorway and press the bracelet or the stickers against he frame for ten seconds to "ACTIVATE" their magical powers.

Then they step out and will be a customer for life when their arms rise lightly over their heads.

Seriously - how long until some company starts using that as part of their sales pitch?

Amega Bracelet Scam and Childhood Party Games

The more I look into these purported health bracelets and hologram decals, I keep noticing a very disturbing trend:

All of these products are being sold using what I remember being childhood party games, which are now being used to trick people into believing there is actually some actual biological result from the wearing of these hokie devices, vs just placebo effect or the tester producing the desired result.

Latest Case In Point:

Amega Bio Magnetic Bracelet Scam

A friend just introduced me to this product. Remarkable how yet another bracelet product promises the exact same results as the EFX scam. What struck me was that they were using the EXACT SAME hoax I remember as a kid at sleepovers and birthday parties. Known as "Party Levitation", or "Light as a Feather, Stiff as a Board", it was always performed the same way. I had a magic book I was given as a 2nd grader that described this very trick:

One kid sits on a chair. Four others stand around him. Each placed their two index fingers together, and depending on where they are standing, places those fingers together under the armpits or behind the knees of the person in the chair.

The "magician" or the person leading the trick delivers the "patter" - "Using only two fingers, it is IMPOSSIBLE to lift this person out of the chair without struggling."  The expectation is set that it is too difficult. On three, everyone tries, and SURPRISE, they fail, or barely move the person.

Next, the "magician" has everyone place their hands on the persons head and press lightly down, saying "Light as a feather, stiff as a board".

Next, they repeat the trick, and WALLAH, the person seems to rise easily out of the chair on just the fingertips.

Even the kids magic book I had explained it as being a matter of everyone believing the person was too heavy because of your 'patter', then when you give them the explanation that pressing down and chanting makes the person lighter, they really try and the person rises easily .

Apparently Amega is using this as part of their "sales" pitch -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R66uKfc8b8

I remembered this same trick when someone was doing the hokey EFX Bracelet demonstration, and was surprised EFX had not included it in their parlor game / junior high school sleepover trick repetoire.

A group getting the exact same result without the use of any bogus Amega Bio Magnetic Bracelet Scam

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-979873598052158228#

Are people really becoming this gullible? REALLY?

Think about the physiology involved. A one gallon jug of milk weights almost ten pounds. Can you lift that easily with one finger through the handle? If you put two fingers together, how much do you think you can lift?

If an average adult weights 180 lbs, can each person lift 22.5 lbs per finger?

As a test, I tried to pick up a 25 lb barbell weight by putting my finger through the hole for the bar. The most difficult part was keeping the weight balanced, most definitely not lifting. With one finger.

When this 'party trick' is initially done, the effort is uncoordinated. When it is done the second time, after everyone has been psyched up, there is usually a countdown and its a smooth coordinated effort.

There is no magic in the Amega Bio Magnetic Bracelet.  If there were, this could be tested on a resistance machine or solo with weights, not using the lame "Light as a Feather, Stiff as a Board" party trick that's been around forever.

GECNA,

What I'm asking is - is there a device that is able to show a measurable response from the hologram when it's in contact with the human energy field?

The claim is that the CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip is 'programmed'. Programmed by what? And how? If CieAura has a device that programs the chip, do they have a device that can detect a programmed holographic chip vs a plain old hologram from say a credit card?

A better understanding of exactly how the hologram is 'programmed' and if it can be detected by any method other than the subjective results of an individual would go a long way to helping me overcome my skepticism.

Placebo results?  You have no idea what you're talking about.  You don't know me, or anything about my experiences.

I am not sure how you "measure" this.  My pain relief (I prefer to think of it as pain management) is a purely subjective thing.  I cannot speak for the effectiveness of the energy or sleep patches, but the reduction of pain that resulted from my use of the pain relief patch was noticeable, but hard to quantify (is it 93.257% reduced or 80% reduced?).

Can anyone explain how any measurable effect can be seen with the CieAura Hologram?

Any measuring device that can show this is anything but a completely inert decal?

Please. No testimonials about placebo results. Scientific test results only.