Weight loss - diet and exercise is the Key. Absolutely, never disagree.

Some people need a bit of help.  My company's superstar product is a Weight Loss pill, and it's made dramatic changes in people's lives - helping them control their cravings while supporting the body and helping burn fat.

You can pontificate on how people need to exercise more and eat better, but you're missing  a potential fortune HELPING people with their goals in that market.

JP

Tom please stop. You are getting nowhere with your comments. You just make yourself look like a fool.

EnviroTabs® is not a fuel additive, it is a combustion catalyst. Don't know what that is? Research it.

You mentioned a company with 50,000 items/products. Walmarts don't even carry that many different products. That's like 50 departments with 1,000 different products each. Talk about over saturation. I bet that company has products that compete with it's own other products. Talk about quantity over quality. I'll take one amazing product over 50,000 "eh" products anyday.

I don't care how long you have been in the field, doesn't mean nothing. In this field, time does not necessarily mean experience; persistance maybe.

We aren't going to get shut down. We are fully compliant with all government regulations. Also, you are comparing apples and oranges when talking about EnviroTabs® possibility of getting shut down and Seasilver being shutdown by the FDA.  Of course it got shut down, it's a food product claiming to heal medical issues; that's putting a person's life at risk.  I feel you brought that up because you had nothing else to prove a point on.  Bad decision.

Mark Seyforth?  One24?  Three Products?  All that do basically the same thing?  Weight loss?  Seriously?  Answer:  Exercise and Diet Control.

Don't consult anymore if this is what you're feeding people.  You're setting them up for failure.  I too have networks around the world.  Know people with strong ties to international presidents and other high ranking officials.  Does that make me a better and more credible network marketer?  No!

So just read this, and forget about posting a rebuttal.  Your point are pointless, and I wait for someone to prove me wrong; while I'm still proving myself right.

 

 

Regards,

Angel Diaz

i work with a company that sells a fuel additive that is in liquid form   which is 1 of 2 products the company started with the company plans to add a lot more in the health and environment arena in addition to the fuel additive for the car and energy product which is for people which helps  keep people from dragging  Mark Seyforth the product formulator for herbalife and the inventor of the milkshake diet is introducing those products because putting all your eggs in 1 basket is not good business sense for network marketing companies. for example if the government tells the company to pull its fuel additive off the market for whatever reason and that is all it sells it is out of business. if it has more products and the fuel additive is pulled the company  could survive   i chose mark seyforth's company day 1 because it is not a 1 product company nor will it stay a 2 product company for lang yhey plan to introduce new products every quarter for the members to use at wholesale or invite people to buy  I was talking about companies in the network marketing arena not conventional businesses like michelin or crocs seasilver was  shut down by the fda  because of problems with the only product the company offered ant the wild medical claims the company and its reps made. if they had other products they might survive

i  did my research in mlm watchdog i have been in network marketing since 1982 and internet marketing since 2005 i have seen single product companies get shut down by the government including    companies that  only sell a fuel additive. i work with a company that sells one but also sells over 50,000 other items ias well i have a new program that sells a fuel additive an energy drink and more  coming if i only market a fuel additive and nothing else and the government tells the company to stop marketing it i am out of business that is why i asked the question the way gas prices are going fuel additives are needed   if there are more products that means more opportunities to sell the additive the fuel additive is good for the environment and a good lead product as far as your skepticism about single product companies    seasilver is a cautioniary tale if greenfoot had more products they could be huge their first product is unique and a good lead item they need more i also do consulting  i have an organization throughout the world

i  did my research in mlm watchdog i have been in network marketing since 1982 and internet marketing since 2005 i have seen single product companies get shut down by the government including    companies that  only sell a fuel additive. i work with a company that sells one but also sells over 50,000 other items ias well i have a new program that sells a fuel additive an energy drink and more  coming if i only market a fuel additive and nothing else and the government tells the company to stop marketing it i am out of business that is why i asked the question the way gas prices are going fuel additives are needed   if there are more products that means more opportunities to sell the additive the fuel additive is good for the environment and a good lead product as far as your skepticism about single product companies    seasilver is a cautioniary tale if greenfoot had more products they could be huge their first product is unique and a good lead item they need more i also do consulting  i have an organization throughout the world

The main reason why bioperfomance was shut down was because their product had napthalene.  Which, over time, will destroy your engine.  They mislead their consumers and distributors to thinking that the products were safe.  Greenfoot Global's EnviroTabs® doesn't contain napthalene, so they have no need to fear.

One product companies, or one product MLM companies?  Because Michelin and Crocs are one product companies and are one of the most successful in their niche.  So are they ponzi schemes, according to what you said what government said?

EnviroTabs® come in differnt sizes for dosing purposes.  Besides that, why would Greenfoot need more products?  Do you know why, or ever wonder why, companies choose to stick with one product?  It allows them to use all their focus to improve on that product and it makes it way easier to market.  Also, companies don't make products that don't help them accomplish their mission.  Greenfoot's mission is to reduce the emissions of at least 10% of the world's vehicles.  Their product can, and is on the right path to, do just that.  There is no need to add different products that won't fall into the scope of their mission, and especially when they already have a wonderful solid product that can get it, and will get it done.

But then again, you probably have no common sense and have no idea how business actually works.  You should study such things so you can actually put up a good opinion, instead of just talking out of your rear end.  I will be back here to defend the company again, as you kind of people show up all the time; yet I ALWAYS prevail.  And yeah, if you haven't tried the product, then shut up about its effectiveness.  Knowledge is power; gain some knowledge on the subject so that your comments actually carry some weight.

Until next time.

 

Regards,

Angel Diaz

the company sounds  like bio performance the texas attorney general shut them downif greenfoot global had other products in addition to enviro  tabs they would have a shot at success will mor products come from that company the government calls single product companies ponzi schemes(thinly disguised)

Where do I start?  Well first off, you have lost your credibility and I don't believe you are a Ph.D, in fact you're not.  You're just some spammer, or competitor disparaging another company and it's product.  You type like a spammer, you have constant spelling errors, and your evidence isn't even concrete.

The patent doesn't belong to them you idiot; it belongs to the manufacturer.  They are the marketing arm of the product, but you wouldn't know that because you hardly did any real research.  If you actually checked for the trademarks you would see that they are there and are as the company says.  Also, if you did some research on privacy clauses, you would see that the patent number doesn't need to be disclosed.

That Nobel Prize thing you wrote there is all wrong.  The company never claimed the product won the prize, they clearly mention that the science behind sandwich compounds won it. 

Go here:  http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=75e651d793e7b50aadae9ea91cab1f01&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title40/40cfr79_main_02.tpl

There you will find out that your 15 minute addtive regsitration to the EPA is invalid.

You say mothballs.  You say your have a Ph.D in chemistry.  Yet you don't mention Napthalene.  That's the technical term for that so called "aromatic mothball carrier."  The product doesn't have that, nor does it smell like mothballs, and the FAQs clearly state that there isn't any.

Conclusion - You're an idiot.  A waste of space on this earth.  Even if you were to obtain a Ph.D in anything, it would never give you common sense; which you lack so much.  Maybe you got a AA in bullshit, but that's all I can see you achieving; because you're not even good at that.

Do us all a favor, just get off the internet and go do something meaningful, like using your self proclaimed Ph.D in chemistry to find the cure for cancer or other currently untreatable illnesses; not ranting on a subject that you aren't even capable of putting up a mediocre argument.  Your attempt to debate is beyond useless.  Quit now, and pick up what ever dignity I haven't already taken from you.

 

Regards,

Angel Diaz

EnviroTabs and Greenfoot Global is the new way to spell MLM SCAM.

Let's just start with the name Envirotabs. They can't seem to decide whether is a ® registered trademark which is issued by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) or a trademark application which has this symbol ™. It seems to appear in their literature as both and the million dollar answer is neither it seems as of 10-28-2012 that the USPTO has never received an application from these people or it has no record of an application. The same is true of their claim of a patent. Trademarks and Patents are both intellectual property and they are given a registration number which has to be disclosed. There is NO Patent associated with or licensed to any name remotely similar to theirs.

Those were the first 2 big problems I could see and then I read this.

I got a good laugh at this one and I quote "they received a cash award and a Nobel Piece Prize." You can't make that kind of stuff up, its priceless... they have never won a Nobel Peace Prize because it is awarded to individuals for their service to humanity. Its a Nobel Prize in Chemistry if you would like to know the correct answer which a organometallic substance has and will never win. If it did it would have been for discovering something that is useful and amazing like the biologically active Methylcobalamin or methylfolate which by the way are Vitamin B12 AND B9 Folic Acid.

I have a PhD in Chemistry, I am a member of the following Professional Societies; The American Society of Chemist, Society of Pharmaceutical Chemists, The American Society of Cosmetic Chemists and The American Society of Pharmacognocy to name a few.

The Greenfoot Global website is nothing but misinformation and misdirection. IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. There are over 2000 fuel additives registered with the EPA and it takes maybe 15 minutes to register one. Registration is a one page form...that's it. Go to EPA.gov and find out for yourself.

The green gas pill has been around for 30+ years that I know of personally it is usually a mixture of something like mothballs and are you ready for this lead, mercury, etc.... Vitamin B12 is a Organometallic compound another is TetraEthylLead, they are metals that are bound to an organic base. You can create them out of any number of substances. What the rule of thumb is you don't want to burn metals hence lead free gasoline. If you know anything about basic gas or diesel engine operations then their explanation of how their product works "which make no sense what so ever " doesn't work.

What in the world would the aerospace industry want with a gas additive? But, It sure sounded impressive didn't it. Think people,

They do not meet any ASTM Standards or have any certifications or they would tell you about it.

Any Company that tell you up front that they can not answer any question about their product and you should glean your information from your up line is a SCAM. Where in the hell did your up line get the information, unless they helped make up the story.

There MSDS Sheet is unique as far as poison and environmental hazards are concerned it says and I quote

SECTION 2 - COMPONENT INFORMATION
Chemical Name CAS REG. NO. ACGIH / TLV OSHA / PEL OSHA / STEL PERCENT
 Organometallic N/A N/A N/A N/A Trade Secret Claim
Solid Aromatic Carrier N/A N/A N/A N/A Trade Secret Claim

A solid aromatic Carrier is something similar to mothballs

Here is a fact that just never stops working, Its called the placebo effect. In this case it is just a little different in the fact that you have been told that you will get a increase in mileage if you use this miracle product. Now i want you to for two tanks of gas find out what your mileage really is. (this something that most of us have no idea about) and then I want you to put this miracle in your tank and see what it does. It does nothing! You do it all. You ar3e now finally conscience of how you drive...and you change... because come hell or high water you want this stuff to work and it does because you changed your drive habits. Period.

Does anyone our their remember MIX-I-GO from World Wide Products (1975) it was the first of the fuel additive companies and they said it worked and it did. It worked on me and not my car, I was there and I knew how it worked and how it didn't.

Do I have to go one. Run Like Hell from this nightmare.

EnviroTabs and Greenfoot Global is the new way to spell MLM SCAM.

Let's just start with the name Envirotabs. They can't seem to decide whether is a ® registered trademark which is issued by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) or a trademark application which has this symbol ™. It seems to appear in their literature as both and the million dollar answer is neither it seems as of 10-28-2012 that the USPTO has never received an application from these people or it has no record of an application. The same is true of their claim of a patent. Trademarks and Patents are both intellectual property and they are given a registration number which has to be disclosed. There is NO Patent associated with or licensed to any name remotely similar to theirs.

Those were the first 2 big problems I could see and then I read this.

I got a good laugh at this one and I quote "they received a cash award and a Nobel Piece Prize." You can't make that kind of stuff up, its priceless... they have never won a Nobel Peace Prize because it is awarded to individuals for their service to humanity. Its a Nobel Prize in Chemistry if you would like to know the correct answer which a organometallic substance has and will never win. If it did it would have been for discovering something that is useful and amazing like the biologically active Methylcobalamin or methylfolate which by the way are Vitamin B12 AND B9 Folic Acid.

I have a PhD in Chemistry, I am a member of the following Professional Societies; The American Society of Chemist, Society of Pharmaceutical Chemists, The American Society of Cosmetic Chemists and The American Society of Pharmacognocy to name a few.

The Greenfoot Global website is nothing but misinformation and misdirection. IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. There are over 2000 fuel additives registered with the EPA and it takes maybe 15 minutes to register one. Registration is a one page form...that's it. Go to EPA.gov and find out for yourself.

The green gas pill has been around for 30+ years that I know of personally it is usually a mixture of something like mothballs and are you ready for this lead, mercury, etc.... Vitamin B12 is a Organometallic compound another is TetraEthylLead, they are metals that are bound to an organic base. You can create them out of any number of substances. What the rule of thumb is you don't want to burn metals hence lead free gasoline. If you know anything about basic gas or diesel engine operations then their explanation of how their product works "which make no sense what so ever " doesn't work.

What in the world would the aerospace industry want with a gas additive? But, It sure sounded impressive didn't it. Think people,

They do not meet any ASTM Standards or have any certifications or they would tell you about it.

Any Company that tell you up front that they can not answer any question about their product and you should glean your information from your up line is a SCAM. Where in the hell did your up line get the information, unless they helped make up the story.

There MSDS Sheet is unique as far as poison and environmental hazards are concerned it says and I quote

SECTION 2 - COMPONENT INFORMATION
Chemical Name CAS REG. NO. ACGIH / TLV OSHA / PEL OSHA / STEL PERCENT
 Organometallic N/A N/A N/A N/A Trade Secret Claim
Solid Aromatic Carrier N/A N/A N/A N/A Trade Secret Claim

A solid aromatic Carrier is something similiar to mothballs

Here is a fact that just never stops working, Its called the placebo effect. In this case it is just a little different in the fact that you have been told that you will get a increase in mileage if you use this miracle product. Now i want you to for two tanks of gas find out what your mileage really is. (this something that most of us have no idea about) and then I want you to put this miracle in your tank and see what it does. It does nothing! You do it all. You ar3e now finally conscience of how you drive...and you change... because come hell or high water you want this stuff to work and it does because you changed your drive habits. Period.

Does anyone our their remember MIX-I-GO from World Wide Products (1975) it was the first of the fuel additive companies and they said it worked and it did. It worked on me and not my car, I was there and I knew how it worked and how it didn't.

Do I have to go one. Run Like Hell from this nightmare.

The user J Isenberg is obviously part of the scam, don't believe these lies, report this. If you are looking for a real opportunity then let me help you. Whens the last time a company has paid YOU 8 different ways? Do you or anyone you know drink coffee or tea? How do you drink your coffee? What is your favorite brand? When is the last way that company has paid YOU to drink it? Never right? Then let me introduce YOU to a HEALTHY and WEATHLY cup of coffee! Organo Gold! You can view my website at http://www.jacobmccord.organogold.com or email me at coffeethatpaysyouincome@gmail.com Our mission is to help you create generational wealth for you and your family! Grow together! Fight together! Win together! Whatever it is you have a burning desire for...it will become a reality or show up in your drive way! Our mission and desire is to help 100 people drive a Free Mercedes Benz by December 31st, 2012. Who's next?

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I have been an investor with WHPT for 7 months now and am getting paid my dividends right on time directly to my pay pal account. YES, I was sceptical at first,and YES the website is very generic but I am very pleased. I just opened another account for my sister. The company is legit and the customer support really do get back to you. I you wish to become an investor please just place my name in the referral space as a friend. You can also email me if you have any questions.

To Your Success,

J. Isenberg
isenbergj@myway.com
 

Their tactics are beyond belief.....So funny

I too received that email,  Can I ask you a question?  Email me @ pauldenton106@yahoo.com

Thanks

I just received another WHPT scam spam email from a girl who must be a close friend of Christina Olgettieri.

Meet Jenet Francois:

The WHPT spam claims that Jenet Francois is the WHPT Support / CCN Manager. Not sure what CCN is, and wasn't really interested in clicking the link.

This has to be one of the lamest email spam campaigns I've ever seen, for one of the cheesiest Empower Network / Training Network ripoffs I've ever seen as well.

 

 

 

I received the same email. I Googled "Christina Olgettieri" and there is no result. No one with that name. Of course, I'm not surprised, because I think it's highly unlikley a swimsuit model named Christina Olgettieri would resort to sending spam messages asking people to sign up in some WHPT scam. 

I followed a link back to the web site for Work at Home Prospect Typhoon ( WHPT ) which convinced me that whoever built it just came out of the hot tub time machine from 1982 and never saw the Internet before they found an abandoned Packard Bell PC with a 14.4 baud dial modem and decided to hand-code a website in HTML in Windows 95.

They didn't get the memo that cheesy backgrounds are so 1995

That anyone would use Paypal to give these clowns a penny for any of their supposed products even when supposedly pitched by a fictitious bikini model seems absolutely absurd.

But then again I have a friend who spent a couple of hundred dollars dialing Nigeria after he got an email offering to deposit 15 million in his bank account, so what do I know about the gullibility of the average spam reader.

 

I recieved an e-mail today from a woman named "Christina Olgettieri" who is apparently a swimsuit model. This must be my lucky day! She even has an offer for me. "Come on board with WHPT as an investor... and I will send you: daily pictures of me for 30 days (nice picxs) = $50 investment." Wow, what a deal! Even better, if I invest $100, I get her phone number so I can text her too! Golly, I should buy a lottery ticket today. 

Wait a second, what did I just read? If I invest $50 in this company that I don't know anything about, this swim suit model is going to send me pictures every day for a month? What kind of marketing scheme is that? Who is this directed to, creepy old men, or thirteen year old kids with big allowances? This was just too absurd to let slide. I had to look into it, so I followed a link in the e-mail to the website for "Work At Home Prospect Typhoon" or WHPT.

The link takes me to a very generic, empty-looking page that features a few too many animated GIF's, with a small paragraph about WHPT. The company specializes in constructing surveys and providing a large amount of feedback to investors trying to start their own business, and promises that "you will receive prospective traffic or your money back." This statement is, of course, followed with an animated GIF of Ricky Gervais dancing and telling me that I am awesome.

The company also offers a money pool payout system, which is what my new swimsuit model cyber-girlfriend Christina Olgettieri was so seductively persuading me to invest in. Basically, the way the money pool system works is, you make an initial investment, and after 15 days, you earn %20 yield on that investment. For example, if I were to invest $50 like my girlfriend told me to, then after 15 days I will recieve $60. Even better, I can continue to re-invest that money, and eventually have a $12,000 pay out.This company must own money trees, because I'm pretty sure that's free money. Can I purchase the tree instead of investing $10,000? There isn't any "products" page so I will never know.

One other "service" WHPT provides is called "The Emsolanator." That sounds cool and all, but I'm not sure exactly what it's supposed to mean, considering it's a made up word that isn't even based on any real word that I could find. Anyway, what the Emsolanator does is brings your company to the attention of your leads or leads generated by WHPT. I still don't exactly understand where the word "Emsolanator" comes from but, regardless, it serves a purpose. 

The web site also features a Q & A section. One of the questions is, "How will I know my information is being sent when using the marketing packages?" The answer is... "The proof is in the pudding." As a general rule of thumb, don't trust any company that says "the proof is in the pudding"... unless they actually sell pudding. The idea that this company will pay out $2,000 to any person who invests $10,000 is ludicrous, and just visiting their web site, full of spelling errors, grammar mistakes, and unprofessionalism completely anchored my thought that WHPT is merely a pyramid scheme. 

I hope this WHPT review helps everyone who reads it. Now, I'm off to invest $100 so I can start texting my new cyber-babe Christina Olgettieri.  ( Actual photos included from the email ).

I wondered if this was happening to anyone else. The way it was handled and the way "Flo" seemed so disinterested made it seem like it was something happening all the time.

I finally got fed up after the form letter from Dean Tarasenko and ran it up as high as I could by contacting the office of the Vice President of Customer Care at Choice Hotels. I left a voicemail and received a call back from a woman in VP's office saying they were extremely concerned and were working with the property manager ( Eugene Rudolph ) to try and get everything resolved.

I received a phone call from Eugue Rudolph after they must have torn him a new one and he said he was doing everything he could to sort out the mess and promised to refund everything including the night I actually stayed.

So far that promise has not been kept, not a big surprise when the chargebacks that WERE issued by Gene Rudolph were done piecemeal and in partial amounts that almost made it seem like he was trying to make it more complicated to unravel.  At first I felt a little sorry for Eugene as he tried to put it all off on "Flo", but could not explain why he didn't follow up to any of my calls or faxes or the complaints from corproate. Now I feel totally justified with everything I thought from the beginning. I really wonder if this Comfort Inn East scam is a way to boost the books while hoping people won't notice they've been double, triple or quadruple billed.

Here is the information I used to get a response: Mark_Weiner @ ChoiceHotels.com . His direct phone number is 301 592 5000

Please keep me posted on your own results seeking a response and resolution.

 

Dear xcountrytraveler.....I have almost the same exact situation with the same people.  On May 5th my husband and I traveled to the Albuquerque area and booked a room at the Comfort Inn East Albuquerque.  The girl at the counter told me my credit card was declined and we were too tired to argue so I pulled out my debit card. My credit card was charged twice and debit card once and when  I tried to resolve it "Flo" was rude and apathetic.She even "accidently" hung up on me the first time. The first 800 number I called even called Flo and she had the audacity to tell them we stayed two nights instead of one.  Not only that Mr. Rudolph can't seem to call us when he says he will and can't remember our names when he has called or emailed.  He also called us at appr. 10:30pm thinking our message was a personal message. I have filed a dispute with my credit card company, Choice hotels, the Better Business Bureau and may have to pursue this with the New Mexico Attorney General.  I fear the first entity to resolve this will probably be my credit card company however this hotel and their corrupt staff can't be allowed to get away with this.  My  initial stay was on May 5, 2012 and the charges were made the 5th, 6th and 7th.  I "googled" the hotel and Mr. Eugene Rudolph and was shocked to find that you had been scammed as well.  If you need testimony to help resolve your issue I would be MORE than happy to help and I hope that I can use what you wrote in this forum to aid me in justice as well.  

Choice Hotels has doubled down on the pathetic handling of what should have been an easily resolved complaint.

As I said in my Comfort Inn East Albuquerque Review general manager Eugene Rudolph and his sidekick Flo were completely non-responsive and seemingly unconcerned about posting bogus charges for four nights in rooms that were never occupied.

Choice Hotels Customer Care Director Dean Tarasenko sent me a fine form letter that read:

"...our records show the hotel has acknowledged your concerns. While we are sorry that you found their efforts to be unsatisfactory, we must consider the hotel's response to be final."

Hey Dean Tarasenko, that would be great if the hotel actually RESPONDED. You definitely have a handle on the issues and the complaint.

Eugene Rudolph and Co already made your brand look pathetic and stupid. Now you just upped the ante by inserting data into a form letter and firing it off like that fixes everything.

Next step. Choice Hotel VP of Customer Care.

 

Thanks Repspace for providing a scam forum.

This is my experience - my Comfort Inn East Albuquerque Review. In all the years I have been travelling across country this was the absolute worst, scammiest, most unprofessional experience I have ever had with any property operated under the Choice Hotels brand.

When I tried to check into my room the woman at the counter ran my debit card and claimed it did not go through. So I provided her another one and she completed the transaction and gave me the room key.

I found the property to be pretty shabby for a Choice Hotel property. It looked like the rooms hadn't been upgraded since the 60s. Crappy shower head, low water pressure. Concave looking beds.

The next morning I checked out at the front desk and went on my way. Two days later I discover that the general manager "Eugene Rudolph" charged my debit card - the one the clerk claimed was declined - for two different additional rooms.

When I called to see what had happened the phone was answered by "Flo". Flo sounded bored to death by my call ( or this happens all the time ) and told me she would pass my message on to Eugene Rudolph or Gene as she called him but that I wouldn't hear anything back until the following week because he was traveling.

I told her I needed the charges reversed immediately and she said Gene Rudolph handled all the billing personally and nothing could be done. When asked if Eugene had a cell phone she told me no, there was no way to reach him. Total bullshit. I don't know or care what the relationship is between "Flo" or Flow or however you spell this disinterested drone's name and her boss, but she was overly protective in a situation where they should have been concerned about jacking a customer for bogus bookings.

The next day, a third charge appeared on my card for yet another room.

I called back Flo and told her that unless I could reach Eugene Rudolph I would have to call in a complaint to corporate for Choice Hotels. She was again completely (yawn) disinterested. Choice Hotels East must have affirmative action for idiots.

I called in the complaint to Choice Hotels and they seemed very concerned. They retrieved the bookings and showed all the separate rooms billed, one of them for three days.

Though they said they repeatedly tried to contact the property, they were unable to reach the general manager by phone. They told me that it was against their policy not to have a General Manager ( who is likely also the owner ) available at all times in case of an emergency.  After days of calls trying to sort this out, and having my debit card shut off because Wells Fargo viewed it as fraud on the part of Comfort Inn East, the issue is still unresolved.

Don't stay at this property. You run the risk of having fake charges applied to your card and if you do this tool Eugene Rudolph will be totally non responsive, so you can count on days and weeks of dealing with your bank and Choice Hotels corporate and still have nothing resolved.

Choice Hotels corporate could have stepped up as well and offered some kind of future discount rather than lose a repeat customer for life.

Epic fail all the way around, but mostly for Eugene ( Gene ) Rudolph and his jerk-clerk Flo. F minus.

 

Is this the cPrime patent?

The patent document was a very entertaining read.  I am a big fan of science fiction.

It is for a “Planar Antenna Array” ( Antenna arranged in a flat “plane” )

This is an actual snapshot of figures from the patent:

 

Doesn't look very sophisticated, does it? The sophistication is in the language used and suspension of disbelief required to imagine that little gold spiral actually does anything.

As it applies to cPrime’s magical powers, the invention summary states:

"A planar antenna array and articles of of manufacture using the same are disclosed that mitigate the harmful effects of low intensity EMF radiation on humans."

In plain English, they claim their flattened spiral antenna  'mitigates' the harmful effects of "low EMF radiation". The patent doesn't prove they do so, just that they have patented a flattened spiral antenna design they claim does so.

Here's the ridiculous part. They make the claim that: "The effects of high intensity EMF radiation on humans have been proved conclusively".

First, they don't definte "high intensity EMF". What level is considered "High Intensity"? Common sense dictates that exposure to a high enough level of any radiation will be harmful. But are we walking around daily basking in an invisibile waves of 'high intensity EMF'?

Finally, they claim the gadget in the patent mitigates "LOW INTENSITY EMF" but then claim that the effects of "HIGH INTENSITY EMF" have been proved conclusively.

Guess if you happen to be around high intensity EMF and are wearing your cPrime bracelet, you're shit out of luck.

Here is a quote from a source that specifically studies EMF and its effects:

Although the science is far from conclusive, a substantial base of data exists from years of research which is highly suggestive of an association between exposure to electromagnetic fields and the development of certain health problems. It is possible that a subset of the population, which may have a genetic predisposition to the development of these conditions, or who have been exposed to chemical or physical initiating agents, may experience enhanced sensitivity to the promotional effects of electromagnetic fields.

There are definitely studies that indicate exposure to what one would assume to be high levels (Specifically, living right underneath high voltage power lines ) can lead to potential health issues ( children in a study were twice as likely to develop childhood leukemia as a group not living so close to the power lines ).

The patent then tries to support the claim of magical health properties by stating “The negative impact ( of EMF ) may take one of many forms including inflammation in the body, decreased cellular oxygenation, reduced stamina and endurance, agitated nervous system, muscle tension, spasms, cramping, headaches and migraine pains, or decreased digestive function, for example.”

The only place I found the claims of these specific negative aspects of EMF was....in this patent. ( Google it ).

It also states “In particular embodiments improved balance, flexibility, energy, strength, recovery, immunity, and/or relaxation are imparted as is a decrease in stress. That is, the impact of psychological factors on many health aspects and performance cannot be ignored and the planar antenna array and articles of manufacture presented herein ameliorate real and psychological factors giving rise to physiological conditions as well as psychosomatic symptoms and somatoform-related disorders”.

In other words, they claim their sticker may result in psychological ‘placebo effect’ results. They don’t provide any proof that it does any of the things claimed.  They could just as well add, “improved posture, breath, hair sheen, gleaming smile, higher probablility of winning the megabucks, and more dates with supermodels”.

The best part is where they say the chip may be applied to a glass that 'may affect one or more physical properties of the water" inside the glass.

Note they say it "May", not that it conclusively "Does".

Even if we jump into the realm of magic and assume it "does", we still need to assume this magic water "May" affect our balance, strengtch, etc. Which it has been proven in blind placebo tests like the one referenced in this thread - that it does not.

This patent is one of the best examples I've ever seen of taking a simple design ( flat spiral antennas ) and from that throwing in mountains of speculation about what the antennas may or may not do to support a bogus claim of magical quantum powers of health and well-being evoked through use of the enchanted pokimon sticker or bracelet.

They go so far as to invoke the Casimir Effect as part of their patent application, which is a quantum field force that they claim is what creates ( in part ) all of these magical effects on the body, or water, or whatever it's attached too.

Unfortunately one of the basic elements of the Casimir Effect is that it is only measurable when the distance between objects is extremely small. Like submicrons. So even if these flat spiral antennas somehow do interact in the way suggested with EMF fields, any effect would be limited to the space between the stacked antenna.

Look, I'm not a rocket scientist ( I just play one on TV ), but the entire patent application states many claims of what the invention “may” do, but not one shred of proof or documentation that it “does” do it.

I could create a patent application that states that arranging peanut butter and marshmallow fluff sandwiches into triangular wedges that when perfectly aligned on a platinum plate at high noon allow photons of sunlight to interact with an identical marshmallow fluff sandwich in an alternate universe as posited by quantum physics and that by rotating the plate clockwise and counter clockwise I “may” be able to establish communication to the parallel universe…and that patent would probably be granted.

Just substitute in some fancy sounding technical terms ( the patent inspectors are typically attorneys, not quantum physicists ) like Casimir Conductor instead of marshmallow fluff sandwich and Photon Receptor for the plate and bam, you’ve got a patent. A totally useless patent, but a still a patent.

This is all going to get worse, because now that there is a ‘patent’, even without any proof that it does any of the things they claim – and to the contrary, every legitimate placebo test fails and the fact that the demonstrations are all based on applied kinesiology – it’s just a disturbing trend toward confusing consumers with pseudo-science to get them to empty their wallets.

All these claims were made in the 70s about “Pyramid Power” but no one went so far as to try to patent it and sell it via MLM.

 

 

 

Hello Whatchdog,

Last month I found the patent for the cPrime planar antenna. The number is us 8,106,849 B2 and you can find it on google.com/patents

http://www.google.com/patents?id=Nv8CAgAAEBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=us+8,106,849+B2&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VNm9T5aPMM306AGPw-w6&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA

In the other hand, the official Evolv web site still have the "patent pending" statement...

I received the notice in a facebook group where we discuss mlm companies. Before this I wouldn't even tried the product, now I don't know...

What do you think?

Greetings!

PD: Sorry about my english, not a native spoken.

Hey guys

I don't have much to add to this, with the exception of one thing. cPrime condoms. That's right, you read it correctly. Think of the implications gentlemen........then again, why would we need that when we have such noble product offerings like Regenerect. :D

Just a quick clarification on your testimonial.... can you lift the WHOLE car or just like the front half?

:)