Who are you calling stupid? I don't think anyone said it was about anything less than oil, and out of curiosity, have you sold any Dinar yet? There are a couple people on this forum that are well versed in foreign policy and the war itself, believe me they likely have a better insight than most other people.

Interesting,

Sadly, you are way off on this post.  I have been invested in the Iraqi dinar since 2004, and it is hardly a scam, although it is speculative at best, but nothing even close to a scam.  As to Dinar Trade, they are the most reputable currency dealers in the country, and registered with U.S. Treasury, so your opinion on this one is not even close to being accurate.

I know there are less than reputable dealers, but Dinar Trade is not one of them.  I know dozens of people who have purchased from them and got exactly what they ordered, and in a timely fashion, and having been on every forum for past seven years, we all know bad news travels fast, and if anyone would have not received what they had ordered, I would know about it.

In my own personal situation, I paid an average of $630. per million, and it is worth double that now if I wanted to sell.  Although this is not a huge return, it was never a short term investment, it was long term, although few thought it would take as long as it has to see restoration of value to former level which has been publically announced many times by Iraqi gov. over the years.  We just don't know when this will happen, but indeed, it will, so given no one has lost a dime to date, even if they came to the party late, it is hardly a scam.  After all, would the U.S. waste hundreds of billions in Iraq if they were a scam country with worthless currency?  

It was all about oil, not weapons of mass destruction as our phoney CIA experts reported, it was the oil stupid, don't let anyone fool you about the exuses we invaded Iraq and ousted Saddam, it was all about oil, ask Cheny and Bush in private and see what they deny. then you know the opposite is true. lol  As to oil, I knew back in 2003 that there was a major oil find that only those oil people working in the country would know about, and I happened to have a good friend tip me off who said the Kurdistan region did not want this to leak out since Saddam would have killed even more Kurds if he knew the oil secret.  It only came out recently, and in a few months, the world will know Iraq has more sweet oil reserves than any other country in middle east, end of story.

With over 500 billion barrels already proven, and pumping picking up steadily, and terrorism dropping, inflation in control, the most stable currency of all in last three years, this is hardly a scam.  If you say a friend lost lost almost his entire savings, sorry, but this cannot be true unless he ended up purchasing Saddam notes, as in, prior to new dinar in 2003, those are worthless, but the new dinar can be sold all day long at $1,200. per million currently, and Dinar Trade will even purchase back dinar at fair rates, so no one can say they lost money on any Iraqi dinar, not possible.  If your friend expected a quick ROI, and was fed some of the hype and BS out there, then they only have themselves to blame, but no one is going to lose out who is holding the dinar.

I have to agree, it is a gamble depending on what you expected your ROI would be, and how soon, but unlike your friend who may be disappointed, there is no one who could lose, in fact, I will purchase their dinar personally if they feel it is worthless.  Holding dinar is like owning the winning lottery ticket, you just don't know when the drawing date will be.  Pretty simple way to look at holding the dinar in my opinion, and with all the little pieces coming together in the last few months, the drawing date will be in June from my best knowledge, maybe even sooner, but there is no possible way the artificially reduced value of dinar when Saddam was ousted will remain so, it is impossible, so stay tuned, let us see who is right and who is wrong in a few months.

Success to all,   

Well, I think there's a good chance that the product itself is kind of a scam, but I am not qualified to say for sure, I know next to nothing about fuels, engines, or how they can be utilized to better the environment other than to burn more cleanly. There are a few things about GreenfootGlobal I can say for certain. I researched their reception thus far among people that have tried to get more information and get involved and they seem to have their communications infrastructure up and running pretty well. It is a good sign if your emails are answered promptly, and you can actually get someone to pick up, especially when the majority of mainstream business take 100 years to successfully get someone on the line. There are multiple people in various forums I've visited that are suggesting the Envirotabs work, though again, I'm going purely on what I've read and can't really even say whether or not the posters were just GreenFoot Global Reps.

I got a huge kick out of the people saying they experienced a 30% increase in mileage worth of fuel, when I can't imagine how they think they could even measure that by eye unless they literally drive the same exact route every single day, then I suppose maybe. The other amusing thing was how many of them were all acting proud to be doing their part as if saving money on fuel had nothing to do with their joy, then again, maybe I'm being a bit cynical. After all, if that is exciting them then obviously there is some truth to the product actually working. Now on the other hand, I also found some relatively severe complaints; one involving a guy who claims that he experienced identity theft after giving his information to GreenFoot Global, though with little else information he provided, it was next to impossible to determine if there were no other causes.

Now do these beat the price of Fuel Catalysts? who knows, maybe another poster can say from experience, but it does seem an awful lot like Envirotabs are basically the same thing, just packaged in a particularly presentable way. Anything that helps conserve gas and give your vehicle a kick is probably something you can say benefits the environment and resources in general, but I wouldn't say its exactly going to save the whales. Here's a quote from someone who claims to know a thing or two:

"As my main business is in alternative fuel technologies, I can tell you point blank, don't waste your time or money."

He claims that all fuel additives do only one thing, which is clean your injectors, and carbon deposits from a vehicle's cylinder heads. Since most vehicles are fuel injected, that sort of paves the way for a good dose of positive feedback. By doing this to your vehicle, you get improved performance, however the big kicker is that you are instructed (predictable with some MLM companies) to use it on every tank, which is obviously costly, and especially wasteful since you can only cleanse it so much in a specific amount of time. According to him, Restore, is a great one and costs a fraction of the price of anything you'll find from an MLM company. He pointed out that anyone investigating a company making these claims should ask for EPA testing results, but not an EPA certification report (apparently those are bullshit), and only indicate that its combustible and can be used in the engine safely and cleanly.

Anyway, that's all I could find out, I am thinking its BS, and that this guy knows what he's talking about, but who knows, maybe there is more to it, guess we shall see...

[quote user="ChrisForce"]

Just got pitched on a green fuel additive tablet from GreenFoot Global.

Claims to improve mileage and cut emissions. This sounds like a company I was pitched on a few years ago Ethos or something like that. Are Envirotabs a scam?

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There is a long history of "fuel tablet" MLM's that have come and gone. Several have tried to rebrand themselves after being shredded over claims of mileage improvement. ( Example FFI - Fuel Freedom International is now Forever Freedom International ).

GreenFoot Global's "EnviroTabs" seem to be virtually the exact same product. In fact, co-Founder Bill Hyman and his wife Mary Ann Hyman were both part of Fuel Freedom International promoting their version of the EnviroTabs, called "MPG Caps". One of their testimonials reads "Mary Ann and Bill Hyman, FL: We are so excited about being part of the FFi business. Between the two of us, we have over 42 years of combined Network Marketing..." etc.

Changing companies is nothing new in MLM, or even leaving to launch a competitive company.

CEO and Co-FOunder Ralph Flynn was formerly the CEO of LifesMiracle ( Ralph Flynn Bio ), a company that peddled  "electrically-charged ionic mineral compounds that activate all life processes including those essential to limitless physical well being". Sounds sort of like eating an EFX bracelet or a magic hologram...

The EPA regulations are very strict for fuel additives. And at the end of the day, that's exactly what EnviroTabs seem to be. To be more specific, they are a fuel catalyst. You can buy fuel catalysts at any auto parts store. They are designed to clean carbon buildup from your engine.

More to come...

I haven't read this entire thread, but I definitely think you should never censor yourself if what you are saying is imperative to your point. Don't misunderstand me though, you can definitely abide by a set of standards that prevent ignorance and belligerence, but I don't feel its right we should all just speak in diplomatinese, although it can be extremely useful in making connections with people. Why fight right? I also agree with Wallace that there is no need for a heated debate to have anything to do with putting people down or trying to make them look or feel like bad people. We are all on our own paths and shouldn't be ashamed or belittled during the times we may do, say or believe in something that is rather visibly wrong. Its all part of being human.

I wasn't censoring myself lol, its just that I'd like to think there is a sense of respect, or maybe just etiquette, and the desire to not have any ontologicalesque arguments. I love debating, I even love arguing, but I don't want it to break down into digging at someone's character personally, this is Repspace, not Jerry Springer. I don't know any of you, I know your posts, the way you write, what you seem more interested in and what you find boring, but I don't know you. I have no right to make judgements, and furthermore, its a forum, I mean you don't even know if the person you're talking to is even real, if they are the person in the picture etc... Look at the way politicians debate (when they aren't slinging mud, or spending 50 billion dollars that could feed the poor on trashing someone's reputation) you'll notice no matter where it goes or how upset they are, they remain respectful, they don't call each names and hit below the belt, at least not blatantly. That's how these debates should go, respectfully, and without childish jabs. I fell victim to it myself, and am my own hardest critic, I am just as guilty as anyone. That was really my only point, that we should be more professional in regard to arguments. As far as bashing products or companies, have a blast, I have no problem poking fun at something I think is a scam.

To be safe............. I think I will remain unevolved...

Thanks.....................

Hey guys at least it won't kill you ?

Oh dear God, not you too!

I am going to have to hold a seminar about free speech and the ability to sift through a few arguments in pursuit of TRUTH! lol. I expect our buddy Jeroqui to go this route but c,mon Wallace, this was hardly an argument, minus a few small "social anomalies"....Even Linda got up in there and spoke some gospel, don't you start censoring yourself to. If there is anything to say to the contrary, maybe its just that we stop talking about the company and or facts in favor of arguments....bah, lightweights!

I'm going to thank everyone for participating in the subject, but I think its time for this to be put to bed. I edited out the remark involving another forum poster, because it was basically unnecessary and not one of my more mature, well thought out comments. It has come to my attention that it really is ridiculous overall. I will probably always be a bit harsh in my criticism regarding companies I feel are scams, but I can definitely take another poster's advice that engaging in a head butt leaves no winner....I don't remember where I heard that statement but it rings so true lol. It doesn't do anyone any good to debate something into the ground, leaving nothing but a string of negative arguing. I generally like almost everyone who has joined the forum, and I definitely don't want new people joining and then finding all the argumentive nonsense a turn off, this is a great place after all. So from here on out, I will not be even mildly joking about any other forum posters, regardless of what they say to or about me, and regardless of the lightness of the joke, its just not what I want to spend my time doing.

I don't think he was "attacking" you per say, Katie, but I have to be honest Evolv doesn't present well, at least not in your posts. There I said it, and I sincerely apologize if I am being rude. The lack of credible proof and M.D. Anderson is true, you can't deny it, I remember reading about it almost a year ago. I think Wallace could have made the point without mentioning "the Evolv poster" at all, but for all we know he could have meant that we know it works because of your testimony. I also want to say that you really have no business criticizing anyway, didn't you just say things about him in another thread? I usually don't get involved but it bugs me when people start acting like victims. You are not a victim, you are just as harsh as anyone else here, and you can be just as critical, judgmental and rude as Wallace. You never seem to recognize that, let alone apologize, and that is the difference I have noticed between you and other posters. You can be nasty and actually be proud of it...that's not a virtue honey, they have a name for that.

Wow...

Do u really think people aren't going to see through this as a personal attack against me? Such a classy post, I hope you're proud of yourself. I have been peaceful toward you and non-reactive to your constant bashing, but you have no limits to how far you're willing to go to put me or Evolv down. I think its like soooooo immature and I won't be interacting with you anymore, so please do not reply or get involved in any of my posts. If you want to remain unevolved, then that is on you, but I would appreciate it if you stop adding negative and derogatory comments to my posts.

/delete you.

Evolv Scam

One of the more "scammy" companies to have "bubbled" out of the murky bull shizzle pit of bad MLMs is Evolv water. A company that has actually managed to make a name for itself, and recently merged with XOWii, a health products company that specializes in nutritional shakes..just what we need. The Evolv story begins in Dallas, TX, when Trey White the current CEO "founded" it. Evolv is a direct sales company that claims to have been spawned by the collective efforts of a team of scientists and experienced entrepreneurs, multilevel marketers and direct sellers. They distribute "nutraceutically enhanced" water, that they claim is actually special because it helps you absorb oxygen better, hence providing health benefits by correcting a seemingly universally oxygen deficiency. I have certainly read that most people do not breathe correctly and generally do suffer long term effects, in the west in particular, but I have never heard of water as being the cure.

Evolv water is said to have been developed from a decade and a half of extensive research and "scientific development". The company claims that it's premiere product combines the alleged colorless and flavorless "Archaea Active" formula with spring water in order improve hydration stamina, energy, endurance and the body's ability to absorb oxygen. I have been unable to find any scientific evidence that Archaea Active is a legitimate substance anywhere on the Internet aside from the company's own web site. There are no empirically accepted studies that are public at least suggesting that Evolv has any benefit on the human body aside from hydration, which you can get for free from a faucet, or from a Poland Springs bottle if you are really intent on paying for it. Recently, Evolv joined forces with XOWii, for reasons unknown aside from those given by both companys' CEOs whom stated that the products and comp plans would be perfect if they were combined as one.

Many speculate that both companies were bombing and needed to combine in order to stay afloat in a nose-diving economy. Whatever the reasons are, I don't see a ton of progress by either company when looking at figures and rep numbers, in fact if anything, this is the least tempting time to bother with either one in the history of their existence. Naturally,

Evolv Health offers the chance to earn income by getting involved with their company. As it is no surprise, I am not thrilled with the idea, and I think its a scam, but I certainly haven't been involved with them, and who knows, maybe the scam has made a significant number of reps richer, but I somehow doubt it. Commissions and bonuses are based on sales performance, of "discounted" products sold at "retail" price.

One of the more telling scam accusations comes from the company's blatant misuse of a doctor's name in their advertising, in which Evolv claimed the product was tested and endorsed by M. D. Anderson Cancer center, and M.D. Anderson himself, which was not true. The product wasn't even tested on humans and only left being dubbed as non-toxic. Well good job Evolv, the one thing that proved conclusive is that your product won't kill us, well, we would know for sure if it was actually tested on a human subject. 

Are you saying that UPS is actually engaged in an MLM scam? Holy s&^%!

j/k... Awesome overview, I couldn't find much about them to talk about that you didn't already cover. Definitely sounds like a fishy company to me.

If you have came across this link while researching the ROI Unlimited opportunity I strongly encourage you to read this posting VERY carefully!!!!!!!!

This post originated from Ty Tribble’s Blog over at MLMBLOG.NET
By Vance Legacy, MLM Blog Guest Blogger

ROI Unlimited Review: Beware of this ground floor travel MLM start up that is headquartered in a UPS Store in Surprise, Arizona

The following are my thoughts about ROI Unlimited. Let me know what you think in the comments area.

ROI Unlimited is an MLM travel discount matrix scheme, based in a UPS Store in Arizona that looks a lot like the failed YTB Travel and TVI Express repackaged with a hyped up cycling matrix compensation plan.

The compensation plan has 3 entry levels: $250, $1,000 and $3,500.

$250 gets you in the matrix and gives you a hotel discount card, $1,000 qualifies you for higher commissions and gets you a “Condo Card” that supposedly gets you access to steep discounts on condominiums.

The $3,500 adds cruise lines into the mix.

Stop and think about that for a second. You are paying an extra $2,500 for “many cruises (that) are below market prices”.

Seriously, how many cruises would you need to take to recoup your $2,500?

And that brings up problem number one with ROI Unlimited:

There is also lot of talk about “no auto ship” with this company and that is true, but you will also be making very little money unless you get good at selling $3,500 travel discount packages. (Good luck with that in this economy.)

The compensation plan touts a team concept, yet only the top person in a matrix of 15 people is making any real money even though everyone is working at selling $3,500 packages.

The Real Product Shipped To Your Door
If you watch the compensation plan video, you get a guy who sounds like he has smoked a pack a day of Camel’s talking over some soothing music, explaining the compensation plan to you.

In the video, he shows a graphic of a product box that you get for your $3,500 investment.

In reality you get a discount card. There is no box of products. It’s a card.

Don’t be fooled.

Who is behind this company and will they last?
I did a little research into who is behind ROI Unlimited, starting with the domain registration:

Registrant:
Professional Marketing Design, LLC

2137 W. Apgar Creek Dr
Meridian, Idaho 83646
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ROIUNLIMITED.COM
Created on: 05-Oct-10
Expires on: 05-Oct-11
Last Updated on: 05-Oct-10

I noticed two things very interesting about the registration. It’s only good for one year and it appears to be owned by a web designer.

The company is apparently owned by Fred Schwartz and Brian Spangler, but there is no information about them on the web site.

And here is the big one, the corporate headquarters as listed on ROIUnlimited.com is actually a UPS Store in a strip mall in Surprise, Arizona.

15508 W Bell Rd Suite 101 Surprise, AZ 85374

There are lots of red flags with this start up company. I would look elsewhere.

If you happen to be looking for a legitimate opportunity in the home based business arena I encourage you to take a look this…….

lol, there really are people buying these things you know :P

I wanted to add a few things though, for the sake of fairness. We live in a time where some practices are generally widely accepted, while others are more frowned upon. You can easily go out and make an appointment to have some Reiki healing done, or some acupuncture and not too many people will scoff at you or say something snitty lol. I remember a time when you might get weird looks for going to a chiropractor, and now its pretty standard for Jimmy Joe Tennis guy every month. The medical profession doesn't recognize meridian points, or many similar untraditional things and yet millions of people swear by it every month, they find relief in it where standard medicine failed, so it makes me wonder to what extent some of it really is legit.

I personally think The Amega Wands are a steaming pile of scam, but whose to say that somewhere in the East in some Tibetan temple there isn't a monk or something who actually has managed to create an object with some energy? Maybe we will be made fun of in generations to come for having thought it was all a sham lol. Following modern physics these days makes the world a much more interesting place, when you look at the hadron collider, or read about the string theory etc, there is actually a majority in the scientific community that now believes fully that there are many dimensions. If that is in fact true, can you imagine what is going to change a hundred years from now, assuming we manage to last that long? Anyway, I agree with Rick, but at the same time, lets not just clump it all together either.

I for one am very grateful for the biased and judgemental review of this company.

Thanks Rick.

With repspace being unresponsive for sometime now, I was left to my own devices wandering around the internet when I stumbled upon this opportunity.

Credit card in hand and ready to click on the "buy now" order page that contained 22 of these magic wands, I said to myself, "self, let's see what's crackin' over at repspace."

Thank God I did.

I owe you.................. Big time. LOL

Disclaimer

I'm not sure what fuels me, maybe its that I'm an admittedly ridiculous person in general, or perhaps I take too little in life seriously, but some times I discover things that put me somewhere in between feelings of hilarity, disbelief, and anger I suppose. Am I angry at companies like the one I'm about to introduce you to?, or am I angry that I know there are members of my own species who will actually pay for this (and don't deny it, you people are out there..)?. As is customary for myself to find such "interesting" Multi Level Marketing products, and the "companies" that introduce them, I have found the latest product for us to feast our hungry eyes upon, and it is of such substance that even Harry Potter would envy it..

This company is called "Amega Global Health" , and dubs itself a "Health Sciences Company". The company produces the Amega AMwand, for localized healing, the Amega Pendant for 24 hour a day healing, and the Amega Magnetic Bracelet for increased circulation and health.

The company sources its products, in particular, as having "Granulated Minerals" which are infused with "AMized Fusion" Technology. Of course the products have undergone "scientific" testing with no lab results, as I am on day two of waiting for a response email from the company itself in regard to actual documents. What makes these wands work according to the company is that they have supposedly been charged with high quality rare stones and gems, which have been proven to be the strongest on the market according to more yet mysterious testing.

The AmegaWand itself looks like an ink less pen, and even comes with a sheath, and is intended to improve health via "zero-point energy"...which by the way is cited by many UFO enthusiasts as being the very same thing that supposedly fuels UFOs. It is said to work on individual cells of the body while specifically targeting the immune and nervous systems. Naturally, the company suggests that it works best on humans and animals, which sort of goes without saying, since I'm not sure who else to heal, a rock? Perhaps my wallet? Incase the "science" behind how it works wasn't technical enough for you, the company claims that the wand works by unblocking the energy channels within the cells and tissues, thereby expediting the healing process and Inducing homeostasis in the body: thereby supporting self healing. Helping the body's "Bio Energy Field" to source from the Zero Point Energy Field, and thank God, because how else could you do that?

Now according to Amega Global Health, this product will Increase the energetic field of the stuff I eat and drink, the lotions and creams I put on my skin (just think; toothpaste that cleanses my chakras); Induces greater energy flow; Improves my body's ability to "self-regulate", and even discharge any negative energy in my body's energy field . Usually a nice cold German beer does the trick though, and its a hell of a lot cheaper. Since the cost of an Amega wand is: (DRUMMMMMMMRRRROOOOOOLLLLLLLL)

$348

That's right, that was no mistype. For a standard Amega wand the price is $348 for a pen with some sand, minerals, crystals, and uhh, more minerals. So let's say you got really high and actually bought one, well, now you need to know how to use it right? That's as easy as buying it! Just point, yell "expelliarmus!!!" and shoot, like a video game. Amega Global Health promises that the AMwand shoots zero point energy out just like a laser pointer, just point that baby at whatever needs it; that crying baby, barking dog, angry boss, sore knee, festering boil, and voila; you will shoot some good energy at it, that's about it.

Now don't worry, the execs at Amega aren't completely retarded, because they realize the pen isn't doing anything, but they need to stall you a bit and explain that the changes are gradual. They promise that the longer you do this, the more benefit will be "bestowed" upon the body, object, person that is physically assaulting you or whatever.

Anyway, incase you can't tell, I feel that it's a load, that is just my opinion, but if you want to check the company out yourself, here is the info. I might do a more thorough profile on the company itself and their actual MLM opportunity if they get more popular, or any of my adoring fans request it.

AMEGA WORLDWIDE INC

16160 Scientific Way

Irvine, CA 92618 USA

Tel: 1 (949) 528-2418

Fax #: 1 (949) 954-8566

Refunds & Cancellations

FX #: (949) 743-3092

AMEGA GLOBAL LLC

1220 N. Market Street, Suite 804

Wilmington, DE 19801

If you really want to know how to get the absolute best price on Zija contact me at 

scottvanwinkle.myzija@gmail.com

No automated emails. I am willing to help everyone understand these amazing products! They have truly been life changing for thousands of people already.

I will show you how to try the product retail, wholesale, or free!

I can also show you how to get a 100% money back guarantee!

I am not into the hard sell, if you are not truly interested don't bother.  

I am willing to discuss the business opportunity with anyone who is serious about a secure financial future.

http://thelegacyleaf.com/zija/the-miracle-story-of-moringa-and-zija/

Hello everyone, I have all but forgotten this topic, and am happy to see more people here to have joined since I was last here. I did not know if Zija products were organic and can see that it has been established as so. This is excellent, and I must agree in general that this is all related to price in the end, and I too am having a hard time imagining paying so much for even just myself, let alone a family. I am also a bit saddened by it because it does seem like a truly wonderful beverage to consume, and it is rare that we get it all combined in one package. I am interested most definitely in tasting this product, and also in Scott's mention of finding it discounted, it seems almost difficult to believe such an amazing product could be found cheaply.

I do wish to remind everyone though that such fruits can be purchased on their own, and still fill your belly. I have been known to eat fruit in the morning and for lunch, and then at night, I have grains, vegetables, water and a small mithai for dessert. It may not be in everyone's best interest to make time for meals though because I know how difficult schedules can be, with work, family and other responsibilities, but at the same time, I am not certain that many people put the effort into changing the way their lives are if you don't have time enough to prepare a meal for yourself. Ahh so it appears I am rambling, please allow me to find out how I can obtain such a sample product, or a discounted price.

Thank you :)

Hey Rick

Great discussion. You seem to be a really sharp individual. I have a team that is having great success with health and wealth. We don't sell the product. We share an unbelievable opportunity with others. I will be using the products, and I share the results with others in much the same way I recommend a good movie or restaurant.

The price you are seeing is the retail price. There are unbelievable product packages with free shipping, free product, and guarantees. If I show you how affordable Zija is would you be more interested? If I show you how you can try it for free would you be interested?

scottvanwinkle.myzija@gmail.com

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Hey Scott, great points on organics, and the basic advantage of having all the nutrients your body needs. This is something that people just don't understand, especially in this country. There are literally billions of dollars spent every year on Diabetes, Heart disease, Cholesterol, Weight loss, Skin disorders which are often the result of food allergies, which are in turn the result of food addictions and over eating certain things. Dandruff! also a symptom of diet, but people don't want to hear it, they rather go to a doctor and take a medicine to treat every single ailment imaginable, and guess what that does over time? It develops even more problems since your body is not designed to take many of the medicines we seem to have grown dependant on.

I want to tell you that I really am impressed by Zija, as far as what's in it and the fact that it is organic. That is a major must in order for me not to make fun of something, let alone think its a good product. I think of myself as being notorious for picking on nutrition products, but this is one time where I can't, and aside from the price, I think Zija is pretty impressive. Thank you for explaining the comp plan because it was one area where any description I gave wasn't going to cut it. The information you gave as far as the production location and the fact that the soil is clean is also pretty damn impressive, I appreciate that.

I know the price may seem irrelevant to some, but not to most. The average person isn't going to believe how their health changes when incorporating an entirely different diet, and that same average Joe is exactly who you should want to attract, both for their sake and yours. For you, you can see that its a better deal bar none, because you're not going to be paying for doctor bills for ulcers, rashes, and all the other fun things that people end up getting treated for, but I have to tell you, for just one person to participate in a single supply, its $216 for the Xm3 personal pack, which includes 1 case of smart drink, 1 bottle of Xm3 caps, and 1 Box Miracle tea. That's insane, and you most definitely do NOT outweigh in nutrients what you would get spending $216 on organic food, that is false, and I'll be more than happy to do a comparison with you.

That being said, I really, sincerely, like Zija as far as products go, but I think the price is going to have a major impact on growth and you could get many more people involved if that barrier wasn't there. For 216 dollars, I can feed a family of four super nutritious organic food for a month all while avoiding the doctor. Anyway, this is really the only thing I can pick on and I really do find it easy to focus on the product itself. If you don't mind me asking, have you found a good deal of success selling Zija? I am curious about the organics market and if its growing as rapidly as I have been claiming lol

Hi Rickdowns

First of all I have to state this. Zija does not claim to prevent , cure, or diagnose anything. It's amazing what happens when you get the proper nutrition in your body.

I have been on other forums and blogs. I am sure that it can get pretty interesting to say the least.

The compensation plan is really not that complicated. It's a binary, based on the power of 2 and has eight ways to get paid. When you see the break down its really simple. The opportunity for profit sharing in the leadership level is really the best I've seen.

I agree with you about the organics however, you would have to have a wide variety of organic foods to get the nutrients available in Zija. The products are Kosher and Halal certified organic.  Zija is not just another "fruit" juice. The nutritional line is a proprietary blend of the leaf powder, leaf puree, fruit powder, fruit juice, and seed cake. If you research the moringa tree you will find that it has been used for thousands of years to reverse the affects of over 300 diseases. Watch the Discovery Channel Video in the side bar of www.thelegacyleaf.com. This is a clip of the video that inspired Ken Brailsford to establish Zija. Moringa has never really been available in the western society until Zija. I agree about the organics, there is usually an adjustment phase (detox) for those who are not accustomed to organic foods. I have grown to love the taste of the smart mix.

The liquid nutritionals are 100% all natural and enzymatically alive. (real food) I am not sure what Zija's expenses are per package. I know that they have four 25000 hectare farms in India that produce the Moringa. The farms are certified organic soil, and regulated. The raw product is transferred to the U.S. for packaging. They have a patent on the canned drink. It is one of a kind. I can explain if necessary.

The price of the product is really irrelevant to a lot of people when they have the kind of results that we are seeing. When you start reducing other expenses with your results, it really seems to be a non issue. If you can appreciate the cost of over the counter and other means of masking health issues, this is really not that bad. I stated earlier I spend $5.75 per day on the liquid nutritionals for my family. For a loyal customer that weighs over 150 lbs. the cost would be $2.84 per day.  I know that 50% of the profits are paid to the distributors of the product. I also know that customers that use the products for more than 90 days, have a 89% retention rate for continuing to use the product. That speaks volumes to me.

I understand your concern about competition. There are many other "juices" out there. While I am sure there are many testimonies about those juices and I am sure that they have helped many people with issues. None of them can compare to the nutrition that is available in Zija. If you do your due diligence on the Moringa, you will see why. There are many studies that have been done on the Moringa tree. www.pubmed.org There are over 200 organizations including the NIH, and WHO that verify the plant. Moringa was the plant of the year for the NIH in 2008.

Yes, www.thelegacyleaf.com is my personal site. I created it after having tremendous results with the product and the business opportunity. It is available to my team as a tool for sharing this product and opportunity.

If you need more information feel free to contact me through the contact us page. I can show how to try the products for retail, wholesale, or free.

Pick my brain anytime.

Hey Scott is there any way to obtain a free sample? I don't want it to cost you anything, but if Zija has any kind of of sample mailing program for people to try it, I'd like to review it if possible, taste etc...

Feel free to contact me through www.thelegacyleaf.com 

I can show you how to get retail, wholesale, or free.

It's all about choices.

I just  rejoined Melaleuca after doing an extensive research into many MLM companies. I had been a customer many years ago but decided to try other MLM companies but either didn't like their hype nor their marketing plan. 

Melaleuca has an A+ rating with BBB and they have dealt with every BBB complaint. You can check BBB yourself. I also signed up via a verbal agreement. I don't understand how they could have signed up your son without his verbal consent.   You can always contact BBB and complain, I am sure you will get your issue solved, since by BBB records,  Melaleuca have solved every other BBB complaint.

Melaleuca has been in business for 25 years, a long record for an MLM. It is a company based on integrity and the products are top quality.

I wish you a happy life.