How anyone can believe that an Ex-Musician and a Realtor can discover a Scientific Breakthrough of this magnitude, using a small room in a real estate office is beyond me.
How anyone can believe that an Ex-Musician and a Realtor can discover a Scientific Breakthrough of this magnitude, using a small room in a real estate office is beyond me.
My concer is about the people-distributors getting really pumped up and excited about every new product that comes along JUST because it is new and the soil is virgin for them to make money. So they do until the company goes out of business and they just move along to the next one. But even more strange is that they are followed by the same and same people every time! That shows something about the personal integrity. I am not saying to wait 5-10 years to see if something is valid, but do a research about the people that are recruiting you or the management. If you see that kind of background, would you like to be involved with that kind of people?
Products come and go....
Interesting,
I research them all and make a list of every new deal to come along. Then I go back over my list from time to time to see how many of these businesses still exist. Much to my shock, very few, so unless you have absolute proof of a product working as promoted, not the usual hyped up lies we so often see, forget about it. If you can't save people money and provide a high quality alternative to what they are currently purchasing, forget about it. This industry of home businesses is difficult enough, and scams just keep making it more difficult.
Success to all
The wand is magic it makes your money dissapear
Has anyone else had a weird experience with Privacy Patrol hijacking your voip line?
On several occasions I have dialed my home VOIP line ( Time Warner Cable ) via my cell phone. This isn't a matter of misdialing with a pad thumb press. Instead of hearing my phone ring, I get a message:
"The number you have dialed is disconnected. But Privacy Patrol can help you blah blah blah". The first few times it happened, I just redialed my phone and thought it was some kind of glitch. But as it kept happening, usually just once a day if I dial the home voip line, I started thinking there is something scammy going on.
Yesterday I was able to replicate this by dialing home several times. One one of the calls, the Privacy Patrol bogus message played instead of hearing my line ring. Rather than hit "1" as it requested, I waited, and somoene on the home line picked up.
Essentially, Privacy Patrol somehow seems to be replacing the ring tone with their VOIP spam message, even though you are still connecting to your target line. Everything about this just says scam and fraud.
Not sure how they are making this happen, but I intend to keep digging to find out. Anyone else having any similar experience with Privacy Patrol and a VOIP line?
Interesting,
After all these years since original post and BS about gas additives, POOF, gone with the wind like all such magic gas pills before EnviroTabs. They are all the same, they hype and BS about how great the product is, and many will fall for it, but in the end, they are all the same, scams.
If people could or would have a way to accurately track their MPG, like installing a ScanGuage as example, then they would see the truth, these gas pills and additives do not work. Some additives have proven to work initially only because of the cleaning of carbon and injectors from engine, but this is only an initial improvement, and using these additives in every tank of gas does nothing more once any carbon buildups are removed.
Simply put, those with high mileage vehicles may see the most improvements depending on product, and I have evaluated them all, and none enhance miles per gallon more than first couple tanks depending on engine condition. In almost every case the people stop buying additives once they see no real results, most simply think they are getting more MPG, but without accurate ScanGuage, it is wishful thinking at best given the income opportunity. Take away the income opportunity, and people will not see any increase in MPG. Human nature, and why placebo factor works on so many people, because they want to believe it.
Having evaluated every product on the market, gas additives only work to clean carbon and injectors, and this will help some vehicles improve MPG, just as all the commercial retail products which have been around for years like STP, LUCAS, RESTORE, etc. The only products I have evaluated which increase MPG and performance, as well as extend engine life are oil additives, not fuel additives. Reduce friction, increase MPG and performance, simple as it gets, and several such oil additives work great at improving MPG and performance.
I use CeraCoat-Nanotech.com a ceramic based protective coating which amazingly cuts engine friction like no other I have evaluated and researched. Yes, they also make a gas system cleaner, as well as a whole line of protective waterproof nanotechnology based coatings, so check out the video demonstrations and see for yourself. Once you do your due diligence, you too will be amazed at the results which are instant, no waiting or guessing. Watch the videos, simple amazing results.
Success to all,
1. Could what be because of that? The increase in fuel mileage? If so, then it depends. If it was taken care of the same way before, during, and after the test, then no. The only way it being a very well kept vehicle causes it to get such results would be if variables were the same. Fuel economy is really tricky to realistically calculate. It doesn't matter how well kept the vehicles is when concerning whether the product will put a catalytic coating in the internal combustion engine or not; it will no matter what in a running vehicle. And if you want to ask serious questions, it's best not to use curse words.
2. Could be, or could also be that they are realized more when more driving is done because the testing phase goes by faster. Also because the more you use the product the more it cleans. The testing phase is where all the variables need to be nearly identical.
3. I had my former boss try it on his Dodge Neon to reduce his emissions because he couldn't pass and was thinking about getting and illegal reading to pass. After a month, and less than half of the product pouch used, his emissions dropped by 71%. He was only a little shy of passing on his NOx at 25mph by like less than 10 ppm. The rest of the pouch would have had him way under the limit, but, unfortunately for him he got his car totaled. The only reason the product is getting a bad rep from some consumers is that some of the distributors are marketing this product for what it is not. EnviroTabs® is not a fuel additive, not a fuel saving device, it's main purpose is to reduce emissions. The reduction in emissions is what brings on the other benefits, such as the increase in fuel mileage. Your emissions drop, you will get an increase. Noticeable? Again it depends.
In a legit mlm company, even with good ethics and product, there really isn't such thing as quick cash. You can make fast cash with most mlms, but it depends on you. Almost everyone has a fast start bonus or first order bonus, which can get you fast cash; but, like I mentioned, it depends on your ability to market it.
I'm a distributor with Greenfoot Global and I market the product EnviroTabs®, though I'm not going to try to recruit you. You need to find a company with a product or service you are going to be comfortable marketing. You need to have a good game plan, as some people think building an mlm business is easy. Let me tell you, to get to the top, especially if you don't have an upline and are new to the mlm field, it is tough. I am a business fanatic, and love to learn everything business. I'm only telling you this because you have to love it in order to get places in this field.
Now about your max investment, there are only a few companies where that will suffice. And I say that because, you need to buy enough product to market. Greenfoot can work in that situation, since they have one of the lowest start up costs in the industry, and of it's kind. There are others but you can do a Google search or check on Youtube for that. It all depends on you.
Sorry if I didn't answer your first three questions well enough. You didn't have much substance in some of your questions, but I did the best I could.
Hey there everyone. Just joined. Posted this same question on work-at-home-forum.com and not getting any responses yet, so decided to try here. And since the same questions/arguments/spammy "testimonial" postings exist in this thread, I will go ahead and save myself typing time and just copy-paste it right here if you don't mind. So here it is...
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Hello everyone. My apologies for dredging up and resurrecting this
crusty ol thread but there is some serious clearing up I need with this
issue.
First off, I am not one of the owners of/distributors/anyone else with
any sort of special-interest in Envirotabs/MPG caps, etc. I WAS all
gung-ho these past two weeks getting ready to sign up for this
Envirotabs MLM-thing and become a distributor, because I was convinced
it's a valid product, until I did some googling and found this forum
thread with responses from a couple apparently very
technically-competent individuals. Then also seeing the fake testimonial
posts here (I so hate that sh*t, BIG red flag there when it comes to
ANY business!!), and normally after seeing that I quickly turn the other
way to find something else...
Yet this is where the contradictions begin.
My own mother drives a 2007 Chrystler PT Cruiser and has been using
these Envirotabs for the past few months or so ever since an associate
(an Envirotabs distributor) at her workplace here in San Diego convinced
her to try them (I would try them myself if I was physically able to
drive, health-wise). She has been just RAVING about how these little
pills have been [quoting from her text just now to me] "fantstic.
Normally spent $60 per week, went down to $20-30/wk, greatly improved
speed pickup, engine ran smoother. Car passed 18-pt inspection @
Chrystler service after 3 months using the tablets. Following day after
putting tablets in, engine had more power and ran much smoother".
PLUS, several other of her work associates in the same office as her use
them (buying from the same guy) and THEY ARE SAYING THE SAME EXACT
THING.
Now, my mother is a fairly intelligent woman. She also is very honest.
Especially with her own son. There is no reason in any way I can see
how/why she (let alone all those other people in her workplace) would be
giving false information regarding this. WTF?
Normally, after reading all this talk against this sort of technology
I'd be convinced it's a scam and move on to something else. I wouldn't
even consider getting involved (no matter how profittable) with an MLM
company selling an over-hyped inferior product that I wouldn't buy
myself, primarily because I personally REFUSE to get involved in
anything unethical like that.
So my question is this:
1. Could this possibly have anything to do with the fact that this is a
VERY well cared for vehicle inside and out (i.e., cleaner inside thereby
making it easier for the tabs to form their
"catalytic-whateverthefuck") in the first place?
NOTE: Although I have no idea what her associates at work drive and how
well they generally care for their vehicles, as far as my mother's car
goes, maintenance has been every 3-4 mos. Done nothing to car except
usual change filters and new tires + brakes 2 yrs ago. Never use gas
additives or anything.
2. Could this be an issue where results are only actualized if there is a
certain amount of driving being done on a regular basis, and below that
average mileage per week nothing significant happens?
3. Has anyone else tried/continued trying the Envirotabs or whatever
(esp if there's a biz op connected to it) and has found that they've
begun to work for them? (ATTN: please no "yah me too!" spammer responses
or mere cynical opinions, looking for REAL answers, thanks).
Aside from Envirotabs (which we'll continue to use for now until we come
accross something that gives even better results than her current 50% +
improvement in MPG, which would be hard to believe) I would really like
to find additional GOOD, ETHICAL, LEGIT products/services/MLM to get involved
with--$300 MAX investment and, if possible, in the eco-friendly/sustainable-tech feild--for some relatively quick cash (need for
personal medical costs)!
Thanks!
i left the company with 50,000 products because it is way too much and way over saturated i focus now on health which includes the planet as well as the people i work with a company which launched on september with 2 products they just added a super food mix product they have more products coming I got tired of competing against 11 million affiliates for prospects i will not promote promote a i product company too limited nor will i promote a company with 50.000 items i found a company that is taking the middle road because too many is as bad as too few. angel we need to disagree without being disagreeable and ugly it takes 2 to argue and we fell for it i will be professional negativity will drive people away from npros
How about you 2 agree to disagree.
I don't think envirotabs will get closed down, i'm sure they work, but it's not something I'd be interested in.
I am not scared of companies with 1 or 5 products. They'll get shut down only if they are lying about what their product does, no they really have no product and are a ponzi scheme.
My company launched with 3 that are really good, and I love it. I can focus on 1 or 2 markets at a time, and when people go to order they aren't overwhelmed with choices.
50,000 products - that's insane, and again, something I personally wouldn't be interested in. Now you're trying to be everything for everybody.
So, we all have our interests, where we want to work, and in what markets.
Other than that - we are Representatives of a Profession. Lets act it.
Jon
i should not have said that about you being arrogant i was angry over your negative comments i expressed concerns about the product. i plan to research the product i am sorry for anything negative i said i work with another company because not everyone drives a car because of age disability or lack of money strong future international appeals to people who do not drive because of the diversity of its line global one will for the same reason as will day one in time i personally cannot use the product because i cannot see well enough to drive a car i do not feel comfortable joining a company like greenfoot when i cannot be a product of the product i am not going to let my disability stop me from working for myself i have been doing that since 1982 with a non internet based mlm i asked about other products because that company can get people who do not drive to join and sign up people who can drive not everyone can
i am sorry for the negative things please forgive me i am only expressing my concerns
good luck in greenfoot global
tom
ps be careful about what you say you could hurt your business
what positive things can you say? i brought up the fuel additive because like your product it increases the efficiency of the engine i brought up the superfood product people need supplementation in addition to diet paul wayne pilsner said a few years ago that wellness will be a trillion dollar industry by 2010 in 2012 it is still growing before you poo poo supplementation do your research the reason my affiliate program has over 50,000 items is the company is worldwide and no one product line and some products are illegal in some countries when you poo poo supplementation you miss out on a small fortune by not helping people achieve their personal goals i market a full range of products for health which includes the environment because if you don"t take care of your body it dies if you do not take care o of the car it will not work Not everyone has the time for a balanced diet or to exercise nor does everyone want to be a vegan which is a vegetarian who completely avoids meat or any type of vegetarian for that matter. greenfoot global is a good company but not everyone drives as far as mark seyforth is concerned he has a second company it is called day one it has a superfood product, an energy shot product and a fuel additive and has more coming including additional health products cleaners more nutritional products skin care numerous other products coming by the way day one also provides a member with a matching contribution if that member contributes up to 10 % of his overrides to charity of his choice. i have the right to post a rebuttal guaranteed by our constitution angel diaz do not give me orders do not insult me stop being arrogant if you can
i agree with jon
i was talking to angel not jon
Jon not everyone has the time to prepare a well balanced diet nor is everyone an organic farmer not even an organic farmer can get all the nutrients from the 4 basic food groups i market health products because people do need help with with their goals diet and exercise are part of the health square vitamins including weight management and skin care are the the third part of the square the fourth corner is the environment. that includes water filters air sanitizers nontoxic cleaners fuel additives like what I market and envirotabs like what angel markets i partially agree about diet and exercise because that is half the picture and people need additional help if we do not take care of the planet no product will help us nor will diet and exercise because we will all be sick and die some morons do not understand that
neither one of us are getting anywhere with our bickering \you can"t convince me i cant convince you let us go our separate ways do our own businesses and never cross paths again in other words this is a draw neither of us prevailed we both looked like idiots
Years later, I'm reading through my old posts on this thread and decided to see what happened to the magic CPrime bracelet.
It appears the old CprimeUSA.com site is long gone, and the CPrime bracelet has been subsumed by Evolv Health.
The product description page no longer says anything about the magic nano effects of the bracelet. It's now just "fashion-forward performance gear designed to promte an active lifestyle."
The only place you find any strange info is in the product diagram, which shows a "bioantenna array". What happened to zero point energy?
Channel 7 WSPA still has their news story where they debunked the bracelet:
they do have magical powers they make your money vanish
they do have magical powers they make your money vanish
what idiot would want a cprime bracelet?
We've all been "doop'd" at some point.
The whole idea is to keep it moving. stop dead in your tracks, and then what???
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Exactly. Nothing. Keep it moving onto your REWARD. Hope you guys and ladies experienced your success!
Oh snap, I remember this! lawls. I'm a little shocked they are still around actually, and more shocked to see this is still being discussed. Epic post by Gridbug, can't sum it up as perfectly or as politely so I won't waste time babbling about it. I'll say one thing though, I have taken the time to trash this company in the past and I wouldn't pay a penny's worth of a shipping charge for a free sample, but IF I came across one, I would be willing to slap it on my epidermis. If I felt any difference at all, I'd happily eat my words.
My God, who knew these guys were still in business, and I've been away from these forums almost two years lol. I think we're due for a quick review!
Anyone that remembers these guys and the way these forums used to be will know how much of a storm these types of products and companies created in regard to forum debates. Products like these and the companies that produce them cause a humorously strong divide between two schools of believers: Those that stay faithful to pure, epirical medical science, and those that believe in homeopathic, alternative/unconventional medical pratices that are often based on an entirely separate belief systems about human biology (and reality to some extent). On a personal note, I am not mocking alternative medicine and I believe there could very well be energy-related mechanisms in the human body that modern science has yet to discover or fundamentally understand. However, my issue here is that CieAura has npt exactly made much of a case for such possibilities.
What is CieAura? In a nuttshell; http://www.cieaura.com/index.html CieAura is a company that produces "Transparent Holographic Chips" that the company claims use a proprietary combination of special energy formulas that stimulate positive health responses. They could be compared to stickers, with microscopic "propiatery" blends of minerals and mystery ingredients which all interact with your body based on your very own subjective needs. Feeling low on energy? depressed? low immune system? Imagine putting a sticker on your body that is not a "patch" mind you, like a chemically fused nicotine patch, but an actual material that uses vibrations and energies to treat your ailments. I can imagine it sure, but to I believe Cia Aura is authentic? not really. Who cares what I think though, what do you think?
Just for the sake of entertainment, please read the disclaimer:
"CieAura products are sold for learning, self-improvement and simple relaxation. No statement contained in this writing, and no information provided by any CieAura employee or retailer, should be construed as a claim or representation that these products are intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of disease or any other medical condition. The information contained in this writing is deemed to be based on reliable and authoritative report. However, certain persons considered experts may disagree with one or more of the statements contained here. CieAura assumes no liability or risk involved in the use of the products described here. We make no warranty, expressed or implied, other than that the material conforms to applicable standard specifications."
Looks like lame spammers never die, they just hide under a rock for a while then come back with more spam.
Gene Ursua is at it again. Gene Ursua the Spammer.
Looks like GlobalVIPLaunch didn't work out so well. Now, Gene is email spamming and also spamming my blog form with his links to Pure Leverage prelaunch. The blog form spam is really weak, it's like submitting a support request but instead you dump your lame prelaunch link into the form and your reply email.
http://www.pureleverage.com/prelaunch/join_now.php?id=NotGonnaDoIt
(yeah Gene Ursua, I removed your ID so you won't get any benefit from this link ).
Reply to: geneursua2874@yrocketmail.com
Once again, P*SS OFF GENE URSUA.
they are still in business the company has not run out of suckers